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Re: Adventures...In America!

PostPosted: Sun Oct 14, 2012 8:04 pm
by NeverSlender
Sicon112 wrote:
NeverSlender wrote:Your theory mentions they never found the body, meaning he may not be dead, but is trying to disappear.


Wait a sec, my theory doesn't mention that. I just offhandedly mention the possibility at the beginning of my post! My theory involving Jane says she kills him.


I only said it mentioned they never found the body. This leaves open the possibility he is alive.

Re: Adventures...In America!

PostPosted: Sun Oct 14, 2012 8:10 pm
by ningyou
And more quick thoughts:

* What do we know about Sherlock's employer? If the police are trying close the case as a suicide, would the employer keep Sherlock on the case, especially if said employer is the killer?

* What is Rupert's alibi?

* Speaking of alibis, what about the witnesses to Richard's will? Would any of them have a motive? Could one of them have tried to manipulate Rupert, rather than Sherlock's employer?

* What about Richard's wife? I know she's a super-obvious suspect, but might she know something that could shed more light on the case?

Re: Adventures...In America!

PostPosted: Sun Oct 14, 2012 8:12 pm
by Sicon112
NeverSlender wrote:
Sicon112 wrote:
NeverSlender wrote:Your theory mentions they never found the body, meaning he may not be dead, but is trying to disappear.


Wait a sec, my theory doesn't mention that. I just offhandedly mention the possibility at the beginning of my post! My theory involving Jane says she kills him.


I only said it mentioned they never found the body. This leaves open the possibility he is alive.


Except that they DID eventually find the body. He said it in the first of the comment talking about Jane. I just asked for DNA test confirmation. We shall see if he responds.

Re: Adventures...In America!

PostPosted: Sun Oct 14, 2012 8:13 pm
by Sicon112
ningyou wrote:And more quick thoughts:

* What do we know about Sherlock's employer? If the police are trying close the case as a suicide, would the employer keep Sherlock on the case, especially if said employer is the killer?


I postulated that the employer wants Sherlock to catch Rupert, because Rupert thwarted his plans by giving Jane unlimited access. If they could prove via Sherlock that Rupert illegally changed the will,t he clause would be edited back in and they might be able to get access again.

Re: Adventures...In America!

PostPosted: Sun Oct 14, 2012 8:21 pm
by ningyou
I postulated that the employer wants Sherlock to catch Rupert, because Rupert thwarted his plans by giving Jane unlimited access. If they could prove via Sherlock that Rupert illegally changed the will,t he clause would be edited back in and they might be able to get access again.


Makes sense.

I wonder what Rupert's motive for giving Jane access might have been, though. Wasn't he also somewhat estranged from her?

Re: Adventures...In America!

PostPosted: Sun Oct 14, 2012 8:30 pm
by Sicon112
ningyou wrote:
I postulated that the employer wants Sherlock to catch Rupert, because Rupert thwarted his plans by giving Jane unlimited access. If they could prove via Sherlock that Rupert illegally changed the will,t he clause would be edited back in and they might be able to get access again.


Makes sense.

I wonder what Rupert's motive for giving Jane access might have been, though. Wasn't he also somewhat estranged from her?


If we believe him, he wants to repair their relationship, and so must care a little. He obviously went to a great deal of trouble to give her an alibi in the whole thing though. As for giving her access, it could be anything from that it was just about all he could do to change one little thing and that was the most effective change to him thinking she would make the best use of the money.

Re: Adventures...In America!

PostPosted: Sun Oct 14, 2012 8:32 pm
by NeverSlender
Sicon112 wrote:
ningyou wrote:
I postulated that the employer wants Sherlock to catch Rupert, because Rupert thwarted his plans by giving Jane unlimited access. If they could prove via Sherlock that Rupert illegally changed the will,t he clause would be edited back in and they might be able to get access again.


Makes sense.

I wonder what Rupert's motive for giving Jane access might have been, though. Wasn't he also somewhat estranged from her?


If we believe him, he wants to repair their relationship, and so must care a little. He obviously went to a great deal of trouble to give her an alibi in the whole thing though. As for giving her access, it could be anything from that it was just about all he could do to change one little thing and that was the most effective change to him thinking she would make the best use of the money.


That's a motive right there. They didn't think Richard was usin the money right and so took control of the account and killed him.

Re: Adventures...In America!

PostPosted: Mon Oct 15, 2012 3:34 pm
by Dekso
Seems that Sherlock has been giving an invitation to the event Poirot helped save from the bomb. So the two will get a chance to meet again anyway!

http://londontales.ezblog.twwf.info/?p=119

He also has yet to do finish the Richard case yet, which I assume will be done by his next post.

Re: Adventures...In America!

PostPosted: Mon Oct 15, 2012 3:37 pm
by Sicon112
Dekso wrote:Seems that Sherlock has been giving an invitation to the event Poirot helped save from the bomb. So the two will get a chance to meet again anyway!

http://londontales.ezblog.twwf.info/?p=119

He also has yet to do finish the Richard case yet, which I assume will be done by his next post.


Examination beginning. Check for info from Poirot's blog. Bringing up Google Maps.

Re: Adventures...In America!

PostPosted: Mon Oct 15, 2012 3:40 pm
by JackAlsworth
A cursory examination on Google brings up Truman Capote's Black and White Ball, which Sinatra and Farrow attended. It took place at the Plaza Hotel.

Re: Adventures...In America!

PostPosted: Mon Oct 15, 2012 3:42 pm
by Dekso
JackAlsworth wrote:A cursory examination on Google brings up Truman Capote's Black and White Ball, which Sinatra and Farrow attended. It took place at the Plaza Hotel.


That's what I came up with as well. I also found that a famous children's character called 'Eloise' lived there, so it seems to fit with the note as well.

Re: Adventures...In America!

PostPosted: Mon Oct 15, 2012 3:44 pm
by JackAlsworth
It faces the Grand Army Plaza, which is in Central Park, its architectural style is "Late 19th and 20th Century Revivals", according to Wikipedia... I think we have a winner.

Re: Adventures...In America!

PostPosted: Mon Oct 15, 2012 3:46 pm
by Sicon112
JackAlsworth wrote:It faces the Grand Army Plaza, which is in Central Park, its architectural style is "Late 19th and 20th Century Revivals", according to Wikipedia... I think we have a winner.


Gah, I was ninja'd. I found it, but Poirot's blog mentioned he was staying in Greenwich Village, so I had to do a sweep of that area via Google just in case there was a possible target there. As expected, there was not. Looks like you guys are right.

Re: Adventures...In America!

PostPosted: Mon Oct 15, 2012 3:49 pm
by Tyltalis
So who will tell him about what was found?(please pardon my ignorance)

Re: Adventures...In America!

PostPosted: Mon Oct 15, 2012 4:03 pm
by Victin
This place in intereting for the LAYAR-users. Do we know anyone in the area?

Re: Adventures...In America!

PostPosted: Mon Oct 15, 2012 4:07 pm
by Dekso
Tyltalis wrote:So who will tell him about what was found?(please pardon my ignorance)


I assume Jack will since he found it first.
I'm still talking to Sherlock on his previous post about the case.
Edit: Oh. Someone posted it on there already. :/

Re: Adventures...In America!

PostPosted: Mon Oct 15, 2012 4:12 pm
by JackAlsworth
Greetings, Mr. Holmes! I'm been following your blog for some time now, and have become quite interested in your endeavours. When you posted the partial letter you received, my curiosity was piqued, and I immediately set about to discover the location indicated by the note.

If my research is correct, it refers to the Plaza Hotel in fair New York City. It is there that I believe this event will take place.


This is the comment I intend to post. Should I mention that Poirot's probably going to be there, or should we surprise him?

Re: Adventures...In America!

PostPosted: Mon Oct 15, 2012 4:13 pm
by Sicon112
JackAlsworth wrote:
Greetings, Mr. Holmes! I'm been following your blog for some time now, and have become quite interested in your endeavours. When you posted the partial letter you received, my curiosity was piqued, and I immediately set about to discover the location indicated by the note.

If my research is correct, it refers to the Plaza Hotel in fair New York City. It is there that I believe this event will take place.


This is the comment I intend to post. Should I mention that Poirot's probably going to be there, or should we surprise him?


Surprise. Go for it. Looks perfect.

Re: Adventures...In America!

PostPosted: Mon Oct 15, 2012 4:13 pm
by Adell
JackAlsworth wrote:
Greetings, Mr. Holmes! I'm been following your blog for some time now, and have become quite interested in your endeavours. When you posted the partial letter you received, my curiosity was piqued, and I immediately set about to discover the location indicated by the note.

If my research is correct, it refers to the Plaza Hotel in fair New York City. It is there that I believe this event will take place.


This is the comment I intend to post. Should I mention that Poirot's probably going to be there, or should we surprise him?


You should, like, probably explain why you think it's the hotel.

Re: Adventures...In America!

PostPosted: Mon Oct 15, 2012 4:20 pm
by JackAlsworth
Adell wrote:
JackAlsworth wrote:
Greetings, Mr. Holmes! I'm been following your blog for some time now, and have become quite interested in your endeavours. When you posted the partial letter you received, my curiosity was piqued, and I immediately set about to discover the location indicated by the note.

If my research is correct, it refers to the Plaza Hotel in fair New York City. This hotel overlooks Central Park, and was host to the famous Truman Capote's Black and White Ball in 1966, which was attended by both Frank Sinatra and Mia Farrow. In addition, its architectural style is that of the late 19th and 20th century Revivals.It is there that I believe this event will take place.


This is the comment I intend to post. Should I mention that Poirot's probably going to be there, or should we surprise him?


You should, like, probably explain why you think it's the hotel.


Does that look better?

Re: Adventures...In America!

PostPosted: Mon Oct 15, 2012 4:23 pm
by Dekso
JackAlsworth wrote:
Greetings, Mr. Holmes! I'm been following your blog for some time now, and have become quite interested in your endeavours. When you posted the partial letter you received, my curiosity was piqued, and I immediately set about to discover the location indicated by the note.

If my research is correct, it refers to the Plaza Hotel in fair New York City. This hotel overlooks Central Park, and was host to the famous Truman Capote's Black and White Ball in 1966, which was attended by both Frank Sinatra and Mia Farrow. In addition, its architectural style is that of the late 19th and 20th century Revivals.It is there that I believe this event will take place.


Does that look better?


Sounds fine, that's enough of a justification for why it is there.

Re: Adventures...In America!

PostPosted: Mon Oct 15, 2012 4:24 pm
by JackAlsworth
Alright, posted.

Aw damn, someone named "Ruth" beat me to it. That's what comes of dithering about!

Re: Adventures...In America!

PostPosted: Mon Oct 15, 2012 4:28 pm
by Dekso
JackAlsworth wrote:Alright, posted.

Aw damn, someone named "Ruth" beat me to it. That's what comes of dithering about!


Oh well at least you explained it, someone like Holmes would perfer there being an actual reason for the answer.

Re: Adventures...In America!

PostPosted: Mon Oct 15, 2012 4:32 pm
by Zup
Someone already posted, lol!

Re: Adventures...In America!

PostPosted: Mon Oct 15, 2012 4:56 pm
by Scarab
Zup wrote:Someone already posted, lol!


Darn it, pipped to the post. Ah well, at least this one was easier than the others! :lol:

Sounds like quite the shindig, too :) I hope he has a fancy suit and a mask at hand.

This masqurade thing was visualsied in the comic, wasn't it?