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Re: New WTF post

Postby Adell on Mon Oct 01, 2012 1:06 pm

The Key text would need to be as long as the coded text. Wikipedia has an example
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Re: New WTF post

Postby The Finch on Mon Oct 01, 2012 1:06 pm

NeverSlender wrote:Maybe the last line is a key?


Wait, What do you mean?

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Re: New WTF post

Postby Telcontar on Mon Oct 01, 2012 1:09 pm

Victin: This thing will decode Virgenere text if you give it a key; start guessing! (FLAG and FLAGS don't work, having tried them when testing the tool.)

Adell: It is possibly to decypher one of those without a key and I know how in theory, but that needs more text to work. The sample we have would barely yield anything for even plain frequency analysis, which is why I'm looking at letter relations instead. The key can be of any length, but cracking a Virgenere cypher from scratch is impossible with a key as long as the text.
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Re: New WTF post

Postby NeverSlender on Mon Oct 01, 2012 1:18 pm

The Finch wrote:
NeverSlender wrote:Maybe the last line is a key?


Wait, What do you mean?

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The last line is a coherent sentence. TBH i'm just kinda thinking aloud.
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Re: New WTF post

Postby NeverSlender on Mon Oct 01, 2012 1:22 pm

The word Joe is underlined. Could that be the key word?

EDIT: Again, thinking aloud.
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Re: New WTF post

Postby Pixelmage on Mon Oct 01, 2012 1:35 pm

Well, on the subject of trying to read it in columns, I did a transposition of the normalized matrix, 19 characters/line, 18 in the last 3 lines according to the image.

Assuming that the Capitals mark the end of a word as mentioned by the Sherlock Holmes cannon, that path is fake as the last word would not have a ending capital.

Unless we ALSO turn it backwards. But, in doing so we have 3 single character words. Or have to recgonize . and : as characters themselves.
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Re: New WTF post

Postby SnackerBob on Mon Oct 01, 2012 1:43 pm

Hey, new here. But I'd like to verify that using the Vigener decoder with the key "Joe" produced interesting results: the first part came out "I havE encodeV thiS letteR
foR feaR oF reprisaL
buT I feG dcZ xzzN oJ gvmX
tjE."

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Re: New WTF post

Postby NeverSlender on Mon Oct 01, 2012 1:45 pm

RESULT!!!

I used that link to the vigenere decoder, pasted the text and put Joe as the key. I pressed decode. Nothing. I then pressed encode and got this:

I havE encodeV thiS letteR foR feaR oF reprisaL buT I feG dcZ xzzN oJ gvmX tjE. ocsN dxydfdyevG wvT zmjfZ cshnogA nviqzmypN. zgzknZ ccvI vgomO: vjinjidvgoN. zjwgyB. xY. cxI eaS sdF swzC qctN xsN.

I'll try work on the rest.

UPDATE: GODDAMMIT GOT NINJAD
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Re: New WTF post

Postby Adell on Mon Oct 01, 2012 1:48 pm

Alright, nice work guys! We're on the right track, but where do we go from here? Maybe the next few lines use a different key word?

Or, more likely, we got some of the letters wrong in our initial translation by accident? For example, EncodeD is clearly the word but we got encodeV. So the letter there might actually be a Z, not an R.
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Re: New WTF post

Postby FeetontheCeiling on Mon Oct 01, 2012 1:51 pm

"I havE encodeV thiS letteR foR feaR oF reprisaL buT I feeL thE neeD tO warN
yoU. thiS individuaL
maY provE himselF dangerouS.
pleasE staY alerT:
londontaleS. ezbloG. cO. "

Which leads here.
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Re: New WTF post

Postby Dryunya on Mon Oct 01, 2012 1:52 pm

Wow! Nice work, hivemind! :gurt:
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Re: New WTF post

Postby NeverSlender on Mon Oct 01, 2012 1:52 pm

Nice, what else did you do?

PS. I finally contributed!
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Re: New WTF post

Postby Adell on Mon Oct 01, 2012 1:53 pm

FeetontheCeiling wrote:"I havE encodeV thiS letteR foR feaR oF reprisaL buT I feeL thE neeD tO warN
yoU. thiS individuaL
maY provE himselF dangerouS.
pleasE staY alerT:
londontaleS. ezbloG. cO. "


How'd you get the rest of it, aweeeesome!

Already seeing refernces to Hefner...
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Re: New WTF post

Postby Telcontar on Mon Oct 01, 2012 1:54 pm

Tales from the City. Well done, CeilingFeet! How did you decipher it?

This blog ties in perfectly with Poirot's, and I expect a new subforum to be created for it soon.
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Re: New WTF post

Postby Adell on Mon Oct 01, 2012 1:55 pm

Should we send this blog over to him, is the question I have now. He may be interested in it.
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Re: New WTF post

Postby The Finch on Mon Oct 01, 2012 1:58 pm

FeetontheCeiling wrote:"I havE encodeV thiS letteR foR feaR oF reprisaL buT I feeL thE neeD tO warN
yoU. thiS individuaL
maY provE himselF dangerouS.
pleasE staY alerT:
londontaleS. ezbloG. cO. "

Which leads here.


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Re: New WTF post

Postby Dryunya on Mon Oct 01, 2012 1:58 pm

Adell wrote:Should we send this blog over to him, is the question I have now. He may be interested in it.

I think we should wait until we examine it thoroughly and make our <dammit brain fart> those things you post after "ergo". :oops:
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Re: New WTF post

Postby FeetontheCeiling on Mon Oct 01, 2012 1:59 pm

NeverSlender wrote:Nice, what else did you do?


I just used the key (Joe) that NeverSlender and Snackerbob suggested. Maybe it was a translating difference with the dancing men, but everything came out perfectly when I put it in a vigenere :]


This is what I plugged in:
"Z twmQ aeokuqR kteJ xakfaI rkI rarD kW dagdejmH sgP Z ravX pyQ jvqZ kA srdJ paQ.
kteJ ujuurzpqrX irK liarV tedeacR zrzcvdklE.
lcqwjQ okmU rxaiF: hfzzfzprxaJ. qvsxkX. oK."
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Re: New WTF post

Postby Dryunya on Mon Oct 01, 2012 2:00 pm

HEYHEYHEY
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That guy was posting on Poirot's behalf!

Ok, that's enough. Please start a new thread, this one has outlived its usefulness.
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Re: New WTF post

Postby Pixelmage on Mon Oct 01, 2012 2:00 pm

Adell wrote:Should we send this blog over to him, is the question I have now. He may be interested in it.


My guess is, Yes. We might learn something from his reaction to it.
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Re: New WTF post

Postby Adell on Mon Oct 01, 2012 2:01 pm

Uh oh...Verhaeren's dead. I knew it.
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Re: New WTF post

Postby AceOfSpades on Mon Oct 01, 2012 2:01 pm

Huh, this wasn't a cry for help, it was a means to help him.
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Re: New WTF post

Postby Scarab on Mon Oct 01, 2012 2:05 pm

Huh, this wasn't a cry for help, it was a means to help him.


Sounds like a possible ally, either way... or someone manipulating things to their advantage (I guess we're all doing a bit of that, really, though). Question is, reprisal from what or who?

Well, that explains why the guy didn't show up to meet Reynard. Two murder plots that may be tied together... talk about a tangled web.
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Re: New WTF post

Postby The Finch on Mon Oct 01, 2012 2:13 pm

And Another Thing...

Have we rearranged the Capital Letters yet?

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Re: New WTF post

Postby Dryunya on Mon Oct 01, 2012 2:17 pm

New thread for discussions concerning Hefner: http://forum.watchthefootage.twwf.info/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=43
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