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Tara Coulson's case

PostPosted: Wed Oct 31, 2012 2:20 pm
by Dryunya

Re: Tara Coulson's case

PostPosted: Wed Oct 31, 2012 2:28 pm
by Dryunya
Considering that most of the discussion takes place in the chatroom (I don't approve, as it's more difficult to archive), I'll put it here: Sicon's theory is that the weapon may have been an air pistol - it would explain both the wound and the lack of gunshot sound.

Re: Tara Coulson's case

PostPosted: Wed Oct 31, 2012 2:35 pm
by Sicon112
Dryunya wrote:Considering that most of the discussion takes place in the chatroom (I don't approve, as it's more difficult to archive), I'll put it here: Sicon's theory is that the weapon may have been an air pistol - it would explain both the wound and the lack of gunshot sound.


Unfortunately, my search algorithms aren't coming up with much and I need to run. An air pistol that fires rifle rounds isn't the most common thing in the world. I'm thinking a custom job.

Anyhow, the murder weapon can be shelved for a bit while we consider other aspects. I suggested trying to get Mr. A to get us the phone number through his powers as admin of everything.

Re: Tara Coulson's case

PostPosted: Wed Oct 31, 2012 2:39 pm
by Dryunya
Also, Holmes has agreed that he could use *69 to get the last number. He still can't check the apartment, the police is there. I'm still sceptical about Mr. A's involvement.

Re: Tara Coulson's case

PostPosted: Wed Oct 31, 2012 2:42 pm
by WackyMeetsPractical
Yeah, Mr. A is not exactly a technological wizard. He still can't fix the caps lock key on his keyboard.

Re: Tara Coulson's case

PostPosted: Wed Oct 31, 2012 2:44 pm
by Qara-Xuan Zenith
Another point to carry over from the chatroom:
Despite what Holmes said, Tara may not have had those moments of consciousness. The perpetrator may have written "lover" with Tara's finger, and we'd have no way to tell.

Re: Tara Coulson's case

PostPosted: Wed Oct 31, 2012 3:06 pm
by Dryunya
As I said, she may have had a moment, as her wound was shallow. The writing could still be faked, though.

Re: Tara Coulson's case

PostPosted: Wed Oct 31, 2012 3:14 pm
by narrativedilettante
Holmes seems convinced that LOVER is the first part of LOVEROSE, but it's likely that it actually is just the word lover.

Re: Tara Coulson's case

PostPosted: Wed Oct 31, 2012 3:41 pm
by Sicon112
OK, so as to what you were saying before I kicked you all out of the chat:

I've already sent a message to Holmes a while back, telling him to look for the service provider for Tara's landline. Let's see, we know the approximate location of the apartment due to Quixote asking for directions. It is near the Woodland Park Zoo. What company provides phone service to that place? We can give the name to Holmes.

Re: Tara Coulson's case

PostPosted: Wed Oct 31, 2012 3:46 pm
by WackyMeetsPractical
A phone company's not just going to hand a random person somebody's phone records, especially if there's a murder investigation going on. But now that Holmes had his investigator's license, I suppose he could make it work.

Re: Tara Coulson's case

PostPosted: Wed Oct 31, 2012 3:47 pm
by Sicon112
WackyMeetsPractical wrote:A phone company's not just going to hand a random person somebody's phone records, especially if there's a murder investigation going on. But now that Holmes had his investigator's license, I suppose he could make it work.


Exactly. That is why we need to find the phone provider for that section of Seattle.

Re: Tara Coulson's case

PostPosted: Wed Oct 31, 2012 3:50 pm
by WackyMeetsPractical
I honestly don't think there's any rush to get the number. When Holmes gets the ability to return to the apartment, he'll dial the telephone code and speak to the person on the other end directly. There's no real time limit. This isn't a real phone. If the plot wanted us to get the number, then it won't allow it to get lost due to some accident of somebody calling it.

Re: Tara Coulson's case

PostPosted: Wed Oct 31, 2012 3:52 pm
by Tohrinha
Sicon112 wrote:
Exactly. That is why we need to find the phone provider for that section of Seattle.

Small problem with that. I can't find any Bosworth Road in Seattle. So at this point, we can't find the area of Seattle from our end. Holmes might still be able to.
EDIT: There's a Bosworth Road in Snohomish, about 50 km north of Seattle. But I still don't think we can track down the service provider from our end.

Re: Tara Coulson's case

PostPosted: Wed Oct 31, 2012 3:52 pm
by Scarab
Ithink we should probably just wait until we can get Holmes back in there... although perhaps the police would have already inspected the lines, at that point? Surely they too would be interested in who called her?

Re: Tara Coulson's case

PostPosted: Wed Oct 31, 2012 3:54 pm
by Qara-Xuan Zenith
I suggested (on Holmes' blog) asking Mrs. Loverose for the phone service provider information; if she's innocent, she'll probably be happy to comply in the hopes of clearing her name.

If she DOESN'T comply... I tried to search, but there's no obvious way of finding the service provider for a specific area. Our best bet is getting her actual number, then running searches on THAT to see what comes up.

Which means: Anyone/everyone with Twitter, please ask Don (TACTFULLY-- remember, he's still shellshocked) for Tara's phone number, to help catch her killers. Remember, this is EXTREMELY TIME-SENSITIVE (and don't let him call the number, of course!).

Re: Tara Coulson's case

PostPosted: Wed Oct 31, 2012 3:56 pm
by Sicon112
But we DO know where it is, even though the street and building are fiction. It's right near Woodland park, remember? I just said that not five minutes ago.

Re: Tara Coulson's case

PostPosted: Wed Oct 31, 2012 4:06 pm
by narrativedilettante
The zip code for that area is 98103.

Re: Tara Coulson's case

PostPosted: Wed Oct 31, 2012 4:15 pm
by Qara-Xuan Zenith
Sicon112 wrote:But we DO know where it is, even though the street and building are fiction. It's right near Woodland park, remember? I just said that not five minutes ago.


Usually, phone service providers are not area-specific; any given building could choose from a number of different providers. So the only way to know the service provider is either get it straight from Mrs. Lovelace, or do some digging on the actual number.

Re: Tara Coulson's case

PostPosted: Wed Oct 31, 2012 4:23 pm
by Sicon112
Qara-Xuan Zenith wrote:
Sicon112 wrote:But we DO know where it is, even though the street and building are fiction. It's right near Woodland park, remember? I just said that not five minutes ago.


Usually, phone service providers are not area-specific; any given building could choose from a number of different providers. So the only way to know the service provider is either get it straight from Mrs. Lovelace, or do some digging on the actual number.


Yeah. I'm just using what I got.

Re: Tara Coulson's case

PostPosted: Wed Oct 31, 2012 4:24 pm
by narrativedilettante
A little bit of Googling has led me to believe that there are indeed multiple phone service providers for that area.

Re: Tara Coulson's case

PostPosted: Wed Oct 31, 2012 4:26 pm
by Scarab
narrativedilettante wrote:A little bit of Googling has led me to believe that there are indeed multiple phone service providers for that area.


That doesn't surprise me, what kind of town or city would have only ONE service provider? it'd have to be pretty small and Seattle is NOT small. I reckon waiting on Holmes may be the only thing we can do.

Regarding the weapon... alright, we're sure it was a rifle bullet, and that it was probably fired from a modified gun... Could the Cabal really be invovled with this? Who amongst them would be able to modify weapons? Moriarty, perhaps? Modern weapons wont be quite what he's used to... Or could they have hired an assassin to do it for them? That wouldn't be uncommon.

Re: Tara Coulson's case

PostPosted: Wed Oct 31, 2012 5:49 pm
by Guyshane
Scarab wrote:
narrativedilettante wrote:A little bit of Googling has led me to believe that there are indeed multiple phone service providers for that area.


That doesn't surprise me, what kind of town or city would have only ONE service provider? it'd have to be pretty small and Seattle is NOT small. I reckon waiting on Holmes may be the only thing we can do.

Regarding the weapon... alright, we're sure it was a rifle bullet, and that it was probably fired from a modified gun... Could the Cabal really be invovled with this? Who amongst them would be able to modify weapons? Moriarty, perhaps? Modern weapons wont be quite what he's used to... Or could they have hired an assassin to do it for them? That wouldn't be uncommon.

Whether the gun was a custom job or not is important to. If it was a custom we can find them really quickly

Re: Tara Coulson's case

PostPosted: Wed Oct 31, 2012 5:53 pm
by Victin
Guyshane wrote:
Scarab wrote:
narrativedilettante wrote:A little bit of Googling has led me to believe that there are indeed multiple phone service providers for that area.


That doesn't surprise me, what kind of town or city would have only ONE service provider? it'd have to be pretty small and Seattle is NOT small. I reckon waiting on Holmes may be the only thing we can do.

Regarding the weapon... alright, we're sure it was a rifle bullet, and that it was probably fired from a modified gun... Could the Cabal really be invovled with this? Who amongst them would be able to modify weapons? Moriarty, perhaps? Modern weapons wont be quite what he's used to... Or could they have hired an assassin to do it for them? That wouldn't be uncommon.

Whether the gun was a custom job or not is important to. If it was a custom we can find them really quickly

Not only that. Was it a fictite or a real person who made the gun? That's an important question.

Re: Tara Coulson's case

PostPosted: Wed Oct 31, 2012 7:31 pm
by Inukai44
I actually live like 20 to 30 minutes away from the woodland park zoo but its pouring rain here :|

Re: Tara Coulson's case

PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2012 8:32 am
by Scarab
Well according to the Cabal's pheeble it wasn't them... unless it was one of them and they aren't being honest with the others but... no, I don't think that's the case. I think they're as in the dark about this as we are (although just in case you're reading this, Cabal, then if you're GONNA send a guy nearly a hundred letters some of which threaten his life please DON'T be surprised when you're the first bloody suspects for another murder which is connected to all of this. Logic, ya know? :| )

Inukai44 wrote:I actually live like 20 to 30 minutes away from the woodland park zoo but its pouring rain here :|


I... don't suppose it's possible to get there? It's just that if this WAS done by a ficitonal... wouldn't there be an ECHO there?