Refictionalisation-Don Quixote

"Finally, from so little sleeping and so much reading, his brain dried up and he went completely out of his mind."

[Refictionalized 12 Dec 2012]

Re: Refictionalisation-Don Quixote

Postby narrativedilettante on Tue Dec 04, 2012 4:43 pm

I like the collab comic idea a lot, but there are some things I'd like clarified before I decide to jump in. Some of this depends on how Mr. A says he'd handle it, so I'll see if we can get his reaction.

1. Would we still want individuals to submit their own refic stories, or would those of us who collaborate on the comic agree that this is the one entry for all of us?

2. I'd like to see a schedule set out that everyone can agree to, so that we know when the scripts will be done, when we'll decide which script to use, and so forth. I think there should be some wiggle room in the schedule to allow for people not working as fast as they initially think they will.

3. If we do get Mr. A involved in choosing a script, it seems like that would constitute determining that the comic is definitely the story he'll be using to refic Quixote. I guess I just think it'd be messy to have him involved at an early stage like that, but at the same time it seems like we'd be doing a lot of work for nothing if we finished and found that Mr. A doesn't like the comic we came up with, so I guess I'm just a little wary of the logistics.
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Re: Refictionalisation-Don Quixote

Postby Dryunya on Tue Dec 04, 2012 4:49 pm

First, there's no way the comic should hinder writing the regular stories. I think some have already been written.
Second, I've asked for Mr. A's confirmation - I think he should accept the idea.
I'll need to think about the rest a little bit. I have a little more time lately than I did... a little less lately :) , so I hope to come up with something more definite tomorrow.
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Re: Refictionalisation-Don Quixote

Postby narrativedilettante on Tue Dec 04, 2012 4:51 pm

Dryunya wrote:First, there's no way the comic should hinder writing the regular stories. I think some have already been written.
Second, I've asked for Mr. A's confirmation - I think he should accept the idea.
I'll need to think about the rest a little bit. I have a little more time lately than I did... a little less lately :) , so I hope to come up with something more definite tomorrow.


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Re: Refictionalisation-Don Quixote

Postby Qara-Xuan Zenith on Tue Dec 04, 2012 4:54 pm

I think, since this is Quixote's life we're playing with, it's always best to hedge our bets and send in as many refics as possible. So working on the comic collab shouldn't preclude you from sending in another refic, and if your script's not chosen, nothing stops you from sending it to A anyway, either with your own art or just as a script.

I'd assume the script-choosing would be by consensus here-- it doesn't really make sense to ask A to pick one, because of the reasons you said. We could probably hold a vote or something.

(Also, I asked A to double-check that one person can send in multiple refics for one character. Still waiting on his reply, but I don't think it should be a problem-- so, again, working on the comic won't stop you from sending in your own refic as well.)

And, I mean, the collab idea is awesome. So if it's awesome enough to be the one chosen, it WILL be, regardless of whatever else we send in. And on the crazy, ridiculous, off-chance that it's not... at least we'll be giving them other refics to choose from.
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Re: Refictionalisation-Don Quixote

Postby Pixelmage on Tue Dec 04, 2012 5:23 pm

I... Don't think that this will ultimately work out. Sadly.
Don't get me wrong, it is awesome. But we can't really risk not sending "vanilla" refics, after all we need a pool of entries to compare and choose the best one to be canon.
This means that, as awesome as it is, it could quite possibly be out-written and then we'd feel bad because our awesome collab refic didn't become canon. Or, Mr. A chooses it regardless just because we pushed the meta buttons to make it happen... And that is an Ass Pull by us.

So, it can work, it can be awesome, but please guys, be aware that it might not be chosen as Canon.

I have already sent mine, but quite honestly, I don't really like it that much... I couldn't give Quixote all the animals and I didn't truly get his awesomeness in paper... We can go for the collab, maybe even I can help, but before we agree to that we should agree that it will be just another entry to fight on the same level to all other entries. And we should send other entries.
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Re: Refictionalisation-Don Quixote

Postby Guyshane on Tue Dec 04, 2012 6:27 pm

I will help
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Re: Refictionalisation-Don Quixote

Postby WackyMeetsPractical on Tue Dec 04, 2012 6:27 pm

Pixelmage wrote:We can go for the collab, maybe even I can help, but before we agree to that we should agree that it will be just another entry to fight on the same level to all other entries. And we should send other entries.


That's what I thought we were doing. I didn't think anyone believed that the collab would be an automatic win. But it does stand a fairly good chance with a well written story. Either way, we end it with an awesome collaboration. I don't think it'll hurt. But yeah, anyone who was planning to send in a refic anyway shouldn't stop just because of this.
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Re: Refictionalisation-Don Quixote

Postby Pixelmage on Tue Dec 04, 2012 6:37 pm

My point is.
Doing a collab is a lot of work. A lot of effort, from everyone.
You work that hard on something and it is not recognized... It can be quite disappointing. And since it's unfair to go "META: We Want it Like THIS :tantrum:", its chance of failing is equal to it's chance of succeeding.

Don't let me stop you guys. To be honest I do want see this get through... I'm mostly drawing out the shortcomings of the plan, if anything, to make absolutely sure that everyone is ok with taking that chance.


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We can make it happen. :gurt:
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Re: Refictionalisation-Don Quixote

Postby Qara-Xuan Zenith on Wed Dec 05, 2012 1:22 am

Well, I sent in my refic (and if it's not chosen, then once one is, I'll explain what my insane "secret weapon" was. I doubt it will be chosen, since other than that "secret weapon", the story's not all that strong).
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Re: Refictionalisation-Don Quixote

Postby Qara-Xuan Zenith on Thu Dec 06, 2012 2:42 am

The end of the 11th (i.e., the midnight when the 11th becomes the 12th) has been declared by A to be the time A will choose which story sends Quixote back.

Which means, I presume, that any refics should be in before then.
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Re: Refictionalisation-Don Quixote

Postby Dryunya on Thu Dec 06, 2012 5:33 am

As I've said in the chatroom, that probably rules out the collab comic - we simply won't have enough time. :( But the scripts should still be accepted as a story, so keep writing them if you started.
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Re: Refictionalisation-Don Quixote

Postby H22 on Mon Dec 10, 2012 8:49 am

My wordless song has been emailed.

In much more important news:
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Re: Refictionalisation-Don Quixote

Postby Qara-Xuan Zenith on Wed Dec 12, 2012 11:47 pm

Welp. He's gone.
Thank you, Pixie.

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Re: Refictionalisation-Don Quixote

Postby Pixelmage on Thu Dec 13, 2012 12:20 am

Brad posted it on Tara's blog.

I... Still can't believe my refic was chosen... Just, thanks. Now we know Don is home and well.
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Re: Refictionalisation-Don Quixote

Postby The Wild West Pyro on Thu Dec 13, 2012 1:10 am

Pixelmage wrote:Brad posted it on Tara's blog.

I... Still can't believe my refic was chosen... Just, thanks. Now we know Don is home and well.


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Re: Refictionalisation-Don Quixote

Postby narrativedilettante on Thu Dec 13, 2012 1:35 am

Good work, Pixel. That was beautiful.
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Re: Refictionalisation-Don Quixote

Postby JRPictures on Thu Dec 13, 2012 2:09 am

That was so beautiful. I love it.
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Re: Refictionalisation-Don Quixote

Postby Victin on Thu Dec 13, 2012 11:37 am

Pixelmage wrote:Brad posted it on Tara's blog.

I... Still can't believe my refic was chosen... Just, thanks. Now we know Don is home and well.

Awesome Pixel. Just, awesome. :gurt:
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Re: Refictionalisation-Don Quixote

Postby Dryunya on Thu Dec 13, 2012 11:57 am

Hmm, you did your refic by not mentioning the setting.
...nice Loophole Abuse there! :gurt: :gurt:
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Re: Refictionalisation-Don Quixote

Postby Genndy Oda C.O.G. on Thu Dec 13, 2012 12:02 pm

A magnificent tale, sir. Magnificent.
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Re: Refictionalisation-Don Quixote

Postby Scarab on Thu Dec 13, 2012 12:12 pm

That was freaking beautiful, Pixel. I don’t really have the words for it, just... I will glomp you as soon as I find you in the Chatroom. It’ll be the biggest virtual glomp you’ve ever had. Just a warning.

I think I’ve realised why Quixote was so special to us. It was more than just amusement at his delusions. In the beginning he was lancing at windmills, imaginary threats, and hey, we’re doing that in the real world every day. And what was it that Gaiman quoted, at the beginning of Coraline? “Fairy Tales are more than true: not because they tell us that dragons exist, but because they tell us that dragons can be beaten.”

If we start believing we can fight imaginary monsters in a fictional world, then why can’t grow to believe we can fight for the REAL world, too, however messy and complicated it may be? That's almosty exactly what Don did. What we’re doing isn’t necessarily heroic, but it’s something we have to rise to meet, and for the first time since we received the deadline? I really think we can.
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Re: Refictionalisation-Don Quixote

Postby Pixelmage on Thu Dec 13, 2012 2:16 pm

Thanks guys. Thanks.

@Dryu, I didn't directly think Loophole Abuse, to be honest... All I thought was: "It has to be in Qixote's world... And away from everything he did here? Screw that. I'm not having his time here wiped out." And I really didn't think it would be chosen, that was really surprising.
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Re: Refictionalisation-Don Quixote

Postby Adell on Thu Dec 13, 2012 2:40 pm

Manly tears were shed. And by manly I mean I nearly cried like a baby.
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Re: Refictionalisation-Don Quixote

Postby S_o_S on Thu Dec 13, 2012 6:36 pm

Adell wrote:Manly tears were shed. And by manly I mean I nearly cried like a baby.


This, except tears were actually shed here. Pixel. You legend of a man. That was worth of Don. May God bless his soul.
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Re: Refictionalisation-Don Quixote

Postby Jeroic9 on Thu Dec 13, 2012 6:53 pm

Good one, Pixel. And clever on you by keeping the setting ambiguous enough that it could be the TWWF story as easily as his own version of Spain.
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