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Refictionalisation-Don Quixote

PostPosted: Fri Nov 30, 2012 4:11 pm
by H22
This is possibly the most vital refic. When we get this echo...

Re: Refictionalisation-Don Quixote

PostPosted: Sat Dec 01, 2012 4:24 pm
by Pixelmage
Not when we get his echo.
My opinion: Those who intend to make a DQ refic, start on it now. Adding a few scenes to integrate a trope will be faster than writing everything only after we get the echo. And since time is a very big concern, it's only logical that we should start writing it at once, just so we're ready to deliver it the moment his last echo is on our hands.

We can use this to coordinate the efforts! Let's save DQ and then the rest of the world metaguards!

Re: Refictionalisation-Don Quixote

PostPosted: Sat Dec 01, 2012 5:11 pm
by Dryunya
Meta: we should try to guess the trope from the context. He went to the zoo to calm himself after Tara's death. I'm guessing it's I Let Gwen Stacy Die, Heroic BSOD, or something similar. But maybe it has something to do with Deanna, who was stalking him at the time. The former are safer, I think.

Re: Refictionalisation-Don Quixote

PostPosted: Mon Dec 03, 2012 2:29 am
by narrativedilettante
Now that we have both of his Echoes, we can all work in earnest on giving Don Quixote the best refictionalizaiton we can imagine. He's counting on us, people.

Re: Refictionalisation-Don Quixote

PostPosted: Mon Dec 03, 2012 5:46 am
by Dryunya
I'm still not sure about the second trope. The first is clearly Why Did It Have To Be Snakes. Which I have no idea how to apply, considering that he conquered all his fears this week.

Re: Refictionalisation-Don Quixote

PostPosted: Mon Dec 03, 2012 8:26 am
by Genndy Oda C.O.G.
Dryunya wrote:I'm still not sure about the second trope. The first is clearly Why Did It Have To Be Snakes. Which I have no idea how to apply, considering that he conquered all his fears this week.

Easy. It doesn't have to be Quixote with such a weakness, does it?

Re: Refictionalisation-Don Quixote

PostPosted: Mon Dec 03, 2012 11:07 am
by S_o_S
Genndy Oda C.O.G. wrote:
Dryunya wrote:I'm still not sure about the second trope. The first is clearly Why Did It Have To Be Snakes. Which I have no idea how to apply, considering that he conquered all his fears this week.

Easy. It doesn't have to be Quixote with such a weakness, does it?


Genndy's right. The trope only has to be in the story. You could always apply it to Sancho, Rocinante, etc.

As for the second trope, I think the most likely one is Double Standard, as I said in the chat last night.

Re: Refictionalisation-Don Quixote

PostPosted: Mon Dec 03, 2012 11:57 am
by Qara-Xuan Zenith
Update: checked with A
Why Did it Have To be Snakes is def the first trope
he said Double Standard is "an acceptable interpretation" but I think we need to find a more specific subtrope?

Re: Refictionalisation-Don Quixote

PostPosted: Mon Dec 03, 2012 12:23 pm
by JackAlsworth
I've been bouncing ideas off of the wall in my spare time, and while I don't think I'll be able to come up with anything concrete, I'll probably just share them here.

My first instinct was to try and write a song/poem to the tune of Sorairo Days from Gurren Lagann. Not sure how viable it is.

Re: Refictionalisation-Don Quixote

PostPosted: Mon Dec 03, 2012 1:42 pm
by H22
I'm planning on actually wwriting music, myself.

Re: Refictionalisation-Don Quixote

PostPosted: Mon Dec 03, 2012 2:11 pm
by Victin
I think I'll try to make a "comic" by taking screenshots and writing something under them.

Re: Refictionalisation-Don Quixote

PostPosted: Mon Dec 03, 2012 2:23 pm
by Genndy Oda C.O.G.
I'm planning on making an actual story, with various vague references to the ARG and modern culture.

Re: Refictionalisation-Don Quixote

PostPosted: Mon Dec 03, 2012 3:02 pm
by Dryunya
I thought of making a comic, too - it would be highly suitable for his Beyond The Impossible nature. But even if I could actually draw, it would require drawing A LOT to tell a story. So I'm still considering the options.

Re: Refictionalisation-Don Quixote

PostPosted: Mon Dec 03, 2012 3:38 pm
by Victin
Dryunya wrote:I thought of making a comic, too - it would be highly suitable for his Beyond The Impossible nature. But even if I could actually draw, it would require drawing A LOT to tell a story. So I'm still considering the options.

I was going to use Minecraft.

Re: Refictionalisation-Don Quixote

PostPosted: Mon Dec 03, 2012 3:46 pm
by Dryunya
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That works, too! :D

Re: Refictionalisation-Don Quixote

PostPosted: Mon Dec 03, 2012 3:48 pm
by Genndy Oda C.O.G.
Could someone please list what Quixote wanted in his story?

Re: Refictionalisation-Don Quixote

PostPosted: Mon Dec 03, 2012 4:11 pm
by narrativedilettante
Genndy Oda C.O.G. wrote:Could someone please list what Quixote wanted in his story?


The story must include a panacea to heal him.

Getting the picture of Brad and Tara in there (I suggested calling it a portrait to get around anachronisms but it's up to every person how they want to handle it) is recommended.

Don stated outright that when he goes back he will be a true hero, not a deluded one.

And I can't find the tweets right now but I do remember him talking about the story and saying that he wanted it to be incredible and epic and feature astonishing acts of heroism and all that. Or at least I'm pretty sure I remember it and am not just making that up.

Re: Refictionalisation-Don Quixote

PostPosted: Tue Dec 04, 2012 11:14 am
by Dryunya
Also, this is one of the few refics that could actually justify having giant robots. Just saying. ^__^

Re: Refictionalisation-Don Quixote

PostPosted: Tue Dec 04, 2012 12:23 pm
by Jeroic9
Recall as well that it doesn't need strict continuity with his adventures in the Real World, according to Mr. A, but I agree that we need to include giant robots.

Re: Refictionalisation-Don Quixote

PostPosted: Tue Dec 04, 2012 12:34 pm
by Pixelmage
I already sent mine. Dunno if it'll be chosen and I didn't add giant robots.
But there is no way in hell I'd not make it in continuity with his plotline here. Up to him if it works or not, and personally I don't see myself as a Refic-Worthy writer, so someone will probably out-write me. But still, It's Don. I had to write something. ;)

Re: Refictionalisation-Don Quixote

PostPosted: Tue Dec 04, 2012 2:07 pm
by Dryunya
Guys. In the chatroom, I suddenly came up with the best idea in existence.

:gurt: The collab comic. :gurt:

One man to write the script (because one-man writing is a constraint), and then everyone to draw the panels the way we can. That will be the closest we'll get to Crazy Awesome. So, if there's enough support... Post your scripts here! We'll pick the best one (or ask Mr. A - after all, it's him who chooses the story).

I think 20-25 panels will do - don't forget that we'll have to draw that. AND the script must be cleanly divided into the panels, so that we could distribute the work properly. We need to give a man a complete description of what should be in the panel.

And, well, everyone tune in! I do expect some rudimentary drawing skills, though. The threshold is low - just don't suck, okay? :D

Re: Refictionalisation-Don Quixote

PostPosted: Tue Dec 04, 2012 2:08 pm
by The Finch
Dryunya wrote:Guys. In the chatroom, I suddenly came up with the best idea in existence.

:gurt: The collab comic. :gurt:

One man to write the script (because one-man writing is a constraint), and then everyone to draw the panels the way we can. That will be the closest we'll get to Crazy Awesome. So, if there's enough support... Post your scripts here! We'll pick the best one (or ask Mr. A - after all, it's him who chooses the story).

I think 20-25 panels will do - don't forget that we'll have to draw that. AND the script must be cleanly divided into the panels, so that we could distribute the work properly. We need to give a man a complete description of what should be in the panel.

And, well, everyone tune in! I do expect some rudimentary drawing skills, though. The threshold is low - just don't suck, okay? :D


2 things.

One: Can it have some Stylistic Suck, or is it the best we can do?
Two: Do we send it to you?

Re: Refictionalisation-Don Quixote

PostPosted: Tue Dec 04, 2012 2:15 pm
by Genndy Oda C.O.G.
Count me in.

Re: Refictionalisation-Don Quixote

PostPosted: Tue Dec 04, 2012 2:24 pm
by Dryunya
The Finch wrote:One: Can it have some Stylistic Suck, or is it the best we can do?
Two: Do we send it to you?

Well, I believe the process will follow that pattern:
  1. Everyone writes his script, divided by panels. I'll go create a thread for this.
  2. When we get enough of these, we point Mr. A there. I think we could leave it for ~2-3 days to write the scripts.
  3. When Mr. A picks the script, we draw. We should divide our work by panels, but I think it will be even better if everyone tries to draw as much panels as possible, so that we have something to choose from.
  4. One of us (I could totally do this) edits the stuff together, adds text bubbles, maybe tries to color if someone didn't, and we get our epic comic. :gurt:

And answering your second question - everything goes into the comic thread, so that we don't lose anything if the image hoster crashes, or something. Well, the scripts sure do. When it comes to the images - use your best judgement.

Re: Refictionalisation-Don Quixote

PostPosted: Tue Dec 04, 2012 2:33 pm
by Victin
Dryunya wrote:Guys. In the chatroom, I suddenly came up with the best idea in existence.

:gurt: The collab comic. :gurt:

One man to write the script (because one-man writing is a constraint), and then everyone to draw the panels the way we can. That will be the closest we'll get to Crazy Awesome. So, if there's enough support... Post your scripts here! We'll pick the best one (or ask Mr. A - after all, it's him who chooses the story).

I think 20-25 panels will do - don't forget that we'll have to draw that. AND the script must be cleanly divided into the panels, so that we could distribute the work properly. We need to give a man a complete description of what should be in the panel.

And, well, everyone tune in! I do expect some rudimentary drawing skills, though. The threshold is low - just don't suck, okay? :D

I'm in, and I have a few ideas in mind. I'll post them as soon as I can, maybe not today.