Discussion of Gulliver's letters

[WackyMeetsPractical]

It is very odd that Gulliver can't see his own story. He already knows what happens in them, in fact, he's the one that wrote them. And it's not like any of his other letters turn blank on him. At least he hasn't mentioned noticing his handwriting vanishing before his eyes when writing any of his other letters. So why is his story blank to him? It makes no sense. What would happen if he tried to rewrite his adventures?

[NeverSlender]

It is very odd that Gulliver can't see his own story. He already knows what happens in them, in fact, he's the one that wrote them. And it's not like any of his other letters turn blank on him. At least he hasn't mentioned noticing his handwriting vanishing before his eyes when writing any of his other letters. So why is his story blank to him? It makes no sense. What would happen if he tried to rewrite his adventures?

Maybe it's because it's not a story for them, it really happened. Maybe if the books were written as historical accounts, they would be able to read them.

[WackyMeetsPractical]

It is very odd that Gulliver can't see his own story. He already knows what happens in them, in fact, he's the one that wrote them. And it's not like any of his other letters turn blank on him. At least he hasn't mentioned noticing his handwriting vanishing before his eyes when writing any of his other letters. So why is his story blank to him? It makes no sense. What would happen if he tried to rewrite his adventures?

Maybe it's because it's not a story for them, it really happened. Maybe if the books were written as historical accounts, they would be able to read them.

That's the thing. They are. Gulliver's stories are first hand accounts of events that happened to him, written by him with very little editing by others. As far as Gulliver is concerned, they're factual accounts with very little embellishment or inaccuracies. They should be no different than the letters he's been writing for the last few weeks. Yet somehow, they are.

[NeverSlender]

It is very odd that Gulliver can't see his own story. He already knows what happens in them, in fact, he's the one that wrote them. And it's not like any of his other letters turn blank on him. At least he hasn't mentioned noticing his handwriting vanishing before his eyes when writing any of his other letters. So why is his story blank to him? It makes no sense. What would happen if he tried to rewrite his adventures?

Maybe it's because it's not a story for them, it really happened. Maybe if the books were written as historical accounts, they would be able to read them.

That's the thing. They are. Gulliver's stories are first hand accounts of events that happened to him, written by him with very little editing by others. As far as Gulliver is concerned, they're factual accounts with very little embellishment or inaccuracies. They should be no different than the letters he's been writing for the last few weeks. Yet somehow, they are.

Yes but they are still portrayed as works of fiction. If you ask the authors they will say they were writing a story, not writing about something that really happened.

[WackyMeetsPractical]

Maybe it's because it's not a story for them, it really happened. Maybe if the books were written as historical accounts, they would be able to read them.

That's the thing. They are. Gulliver's stories are first hand accounts of events that happened to him, written by him with very little editing by others. As far as Gulliver is concerned, they're factual accounts with very little embellishment or inaccuracies. They should be no different than the letters he's been writing for the last few weeks. Yet somehow, they are.

Yes but they are still portrayed as works of fiction. If you ask the authors they will say they were writing a story, not writing about something that really happened.

I'm not sure you're saying what you think you're trying to say. The works are not portrayed as fiction. They're portrayed as the actual writings of Gulliver. They are fiction, but the writings presents itself as non-fiction. Yes, the book was written by an author in this universe by a man who wasn't Gulliver. But in Gulliver's universe, he wrote those words.

[NeverSlender]

Yes I said that. To them, they're stories are history, not fiction. But to everyone else, they are fiction.

[WackyMeetsPractical]

Yes I said that. To them, they're stories are history, not fiction. But to everyone else, they are fiction.

I don't understand why that should make a difference. The characters can read fiction. Quixote has read Sherlock Holmes, for instance. So I don't see how that's relevant.

[NeverSlender]

Yes I said that. To them, they're stories are history, not fiction. But to everyone else, they are fiction.

I don't understand why that should make a difference. The characters can read fiction. Quixote has read Sherlock Holmes, for instance. So I don't see how that's relevant.

They can read other stories because it's not their story. It's not their history.

[WackyMeetsPractical]

Yes I said that. To them, they're stories are history, not fiction. But to everyone else, they are fiction.

I don't understand why that should make a difference. The characters can read fiction. Quixote has read Sherlock Holmes, for instance. So I don't see how that's relevant.

They can read other stories because it's not their story. It's not their history.

Stop switching stories. Can they not read their stories because they're fictional or because they're about them? Because either way, it doesn't add up. Gulliver's been writing about his adventures since he's got here. He hasn't reported any of them going blank, so we're assuming that they haven't. And those letters just happens to be his history, historical accounts of his travels just like his book. If he can still see those letters, logically, he should still be able to read his book, unless the fictionalization of the book is also a factor, which seems odd since they can still read works of fiction. The only thing that makes sense is that each character cannot read fictional accounts about themselves, which really doesn't make that much sense either.

Of course, if it turns out that Gulliver's letters since arriving here have also turned invisible to his own eye, then maybe the "can't read their own histories" theory would work.

[NeverSlender]

My story has stayed the same.

Gulliver can probably read the letters, because they're about things that have happened in our reality. Therefore they are They are real events to both Gulliver and us, whereas Gulliver's Travels is a story to us but history for Gulliver.

[WackyMeetsPractical]

My story has stayed the same.

Gulliver can probably read the letters, because they're about things that have happened in our reality. Therefore they are They are real events to both Gulliver and us, whereas Gulliver's Travels is a story to us but history for Gulliver.

I'm still not entirely sure how that makes a difference. Why should it matter to Gulliver's eyes whether or not we believe his stories are fictional?

This topic is getting derailed. Let's move this to the general discussion, shall we? We can discuss our theories as to why any of these characters are unable to see their own stories.

[Sicon112]

Just edited a weird entry on the timeline that said Gulliver saw androids. Where the hell were ANDROIDS mentioned? I fixed it to say he probably went to Akihabara. His description of the area fits perfectly. Fear the Otakus.

[Zup]

New blog entry up.

Seems like more stuff about Gulliver traveling around Japan. Funny that he couldn't spell shinkansen. In any case, nothing really important to discuss except that John's not likely to fly anywhere.

[Sicon112]

New blog entry up.

Seems like more stuff about Gulliver traveling around Japan. Funny that he couldn't spell shinkansen. In any case, nothing really important to discuss except that John's not likely to fly anywhere.

That is amusing, but I like when he went to Akihabara more. ^_^

[IslaKariese]

Transcribed:

I would like to start by addressing more of the comments my readers have been giving me. First of all, I would like to reiterate that I blame none other than myself for my technological ineptitude. I still find it hard to believe that my works have made it to this land without my knowing, but a reader has left a description of a place much like one that I have visited. I will have to try again to verify that at a later time, with John's permission.

With regard to planes, I was surprised to find that John knows about them, but for some reason he is not very enthusiastic about the idea of flight.

Try as I might, I just can't disregard the sudden change Japan has gone through since my previous visit. John suggested that perhaps I was in a different part of the country after all, and no matter how certain I was to the contrary, part of me wanted to agree with my good friend. Today we decided to travel farther out than ever before by means of the fast train which the locals call the [crossed out words] bullet train.

As we traveled out of Tokyo, I watched the towers speed by in a blur, and they were soon replaced by stunning fields and beautiful mountains.

[Sicon112]

Add to transcription section.

[IslaKariese]

Add to transcription section.

Done.

[Not Your Sayu-chan]

you people actually made sense of that idiot's chicken scratch. dedication much?

[IslaKariese]

you people actually made sense of that idiot's chicken scratch. dedication much?

It takes a bit, and if your eyesight's a bitch it's hopeless, but helping others read it is worth it.

[Zup]

It appears that Gulliver has made his way to Nara, Japan. I've been there, the deer are nosy! They started eating my cousin's sweatshirt.

But anyhoo, we can add it to the map I guess. Maybe it's a new echo spot?

[Sicon112]

I'm getting so much amusement out of him wandering around in Japan....

[Dryunya]

you people actually made sense of that idiot's chicken scratch.

From what I've seen in the comments you're not in the loop, amirite? How did you even find him, then?

dedication much?

You wouldn't believe.

[WackyMeetsPractical]

It appears that Gulliver has made his way to Nara, Japan. I've been there, the deer are nosy! They started eating my cousin's sweatshirt.

But anyhoo, we can add it to the map I guess. Maybe it's a new echo spot?

Go ahead and add it, but don't mark it as an echo until Mr. A confirms.

[Zup]

Any guesses on where Gulliver and LJS are headed? If the food blog is full of clues, perhaps China?

[NeverSlender]

I would assume somewhere in Asia. Hong Kong maybe?