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Re: Main discussion thread

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Sun Oct 14, 2012 10:25 pm
by Pixelmage
Two options. Try to persuade him into accepting to go back or pushing him farther down his current path.
Frist one seems the correct, but it may take some serious manipulation to accomplish.
Re: Main discussion thread

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Sun Oct 14, 2012 10:28 pm
by Inukai44
Pixelmage wrote:Two options. Try to persuade him into accepting to go back or pushing him farther down his current path.
Frist one seems the correct, but it may take some serious manipulation to accomplish.
I agree with you the first one seems correct but here is another problem should we tell Juliet? Or would that make more problems?
Re: Main discussion thread

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Sun Oct 14, 2012 10:30 pm
by Krika
Yah, this is going to be tricky, and Romeo is going to be really resistant to any perceived manipulation.
Which means, if we want to try and manipulate him, we either need to be really good in the right direction, or really bad in the wrong one. Unless we can convince him honestly.
Now, sending him back is kinda what I think is for the best, as it would probably be the best option for the repair of the wall, but it has the issue of sending them to their deaths. Letting them stay is the "humane" thing, but it could be bad for the stability of the wall.
Odd thought: How would their families be doing without them?
Re: Main discussion thread

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Sun Oct 14, 2012 10:30 pm
by Sicon112
Pixelmage wrote:Two options. Try to persuade him into accepting to go back or pushing him farther down his current path.
Frist one seems the correct, but it may take some serious manipulation to accomplish.
Like I said, Juliet is scared, but Romeo thinks she is just nagging, and therefore avoids her, which just makes it worse. Sorry guys, when I look at people being this dumb about things this late at night, I get a killer headache and stop thinking. I can't deal with these two right now. I'm too tired.
Re: Main discussion thread

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Sun Oct 14, 2012 10:31 pm
by Pixelmage
Inukai44 wrote:I agree with you the first one seems correct but here is another problem should we tell Juliet? Or would that make more problems?
No. If she's "nagging" him already, telling her would make her move into his dorm... Wait, is that a bad thing?
Re: Main discussion thread

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Sun Oct 14, 2012 10:33 pm
by Inukai44
Pixelmage wrote:Inukai44 wrote:I agree with you the first one seems correct but here is another problem should we tell Juliet? Or would that make more problems?
No. If she's "nagging" him already, telling her would make her move into his dorm... Wait, is that a bad thing?
In my opinion that sounds good and bad.
Re: Main discussion thread

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Sun Oct 14, 2012 10:34 pm
by IslaKariese
This is what I wanna write:
Romeo, we can't tell you what to do. But the thing is, you know full well that we all correspond with both of you and we know your eyes are looking somewhere other than for Juliet. You avoid her and you block her, so of course she would worry. You don't feel the relationship is worth fighting for, at least tell her so before deciding it's over.
Issues and corrections?
Re: Main discussion thread

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Sun Oct 14, 2012 10:35 pm
by Sicon112
IslaKariese wrote:This is what I wanna write:
Romeo, we can't tell you what to do. But the thing is, you know full well that we all correspond with both of you and we know your eyes are looking somewhere other than for Juliet. You avoid her and you block her, so of course she would worry. You don't feel the relationship is worth fighting for, at least tell her so before deciding it's over.
Issues and corrections?
Your pressuring him. He won't react well. Let me think on this... post in a sec
Re: Main discussion thread

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Sun Oct 14, 2012 10:36 pm
by Pixelmage
IslaKariese wrote:This is what I wanna write:
Romeo, we can't tell you what to do. But the thing is, you know full well that we all correspond with both of you and we know your eyes are looking somewhere other than for Juliet. You avoid her and you block her, so of course she would worry. You don't feel the relationship is worth fighting for, at least tell her so before deciding it's over.
Issues and corrections?
Pretty solid. I think. After his reaction to that we start working on "Going back is a good thing".
Re: Main discussion thread

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Sun Oct 14, 2012 10:38 pm
by IslaKariese
Pixelmage wrote:Pretty solid. I think. After his reaction to that we start working on "Going back is a good thing".
I'll wait for Sicon to come back for posting. He has something in mind, I'm sure.
Re: Main discussion thread

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Sun Oct 14, 2012 10:39 pm
by Sicon112
OK, pressure on Romeo isn't going to end well. First we have to establish ourselves in his mind as on his side, then we have to somehow manipulate Juliet into acting less naggy. I say set them up to go somewhere together with all discussion of their situation ABSOLUTELY BANNED. Tell them that they are getting too worried and need to relax or something. Come up with a great way to spend some time. Amusement park or something. Once we make Juliet stop nagging, then we can slowly begin to guilt him by implying that Juliet might just be a little scared of the place she has found herself, since she isn't as attuned to it as he is. Then we manipulate Juliet into blatantly saying as much to his face shortly thereafter.
More or less that plan, modified constantly to keep up with events. It's a good starting point though.
Re: Main discussion thread

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Sun Oct 14, 2012 10:41 pm
by Sicon112
Pixelmage wrote:Pretty solid. I think. After his reaction to that we start working on "Going back is a good thing".
We cannot just do that directly. Any such suggestion is going to get a bad reaction from Romeo. He made it pretty clear in his last post that he enjoys the freedom in this world. Any attempt to force him back will be resisted. He IS a teenager, you know.
Re: Main discussion thread

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Sun Oct 14, 2012 10:42 pm
by Krika
I agree that forcing him isn't going to do anything. Like Sicon said, we need to back off from them for the moment, and try and focus on other things.
Re: Main discussion thread

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Sun Oct 14, 2012 10:42 pm
by Inukai44
Sicon112 wrote:OK, pressure on Romeo isn't going to end well. First we have to establish ourselves in his mind as on his side, then we have to somehow manipulate Juliet into acting less naggy. I say set them up to go somewhere together with all discussion of their situation ABSOLUTELY BANNED. Tell them that they are getting too worried and need to relax or something. Come up with a great way to spend some time. Amusement park or something. Once we make Juliet stop nagging, then we can slowly begin to guilt him by implying that Juliet might just be a little scared of the place she has found herself, since she isn't as attuned to it as he is. Then we manipulate Juliet into blatantly saying as much to his face shortly thereafter.
More or less that plan, modified constantly to keep up with events. It's a good starting point though.
I totally agree with this plan pressure on Romeo isn't good at all and I was thinking maybe they could do like a dinner and a movie perhaps?
Re: Main discussion thread

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Sun Oct 14, 2012 10:43 pm
by IslaKariese
I'll leave the more complicated stuff to you, then. Anything I come up with would feel like I'm lying and would ring false.
Re: Main discussion thread

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Sun Oct 14, 2012 10:44 pm
by Sicon112
You guys know what, let me post something on the blog to get you started, then you work with that. Hang on. This may take me a little time.
Re: Main discussion thread

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Sun Oct 14, 2012 10:56 pm
by Sicon112
OK, screw this dancing around the issue with careful wording! I quit! I've always wanted to see what would happen to people in these romance novel setups if there was just ONE friggin sane person who told them exactly what was happening and why, so that's what they bloody well get!
Re: Main discussion thread

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Sun Oct 14, 2012 11:03 pm
by Krika
Awesome!
SOCIAL EXPERIMENT TIME!
Re: Main discussion thread

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Sun Oct 14, 2012 11:05 pm
by Pixelmage
Sicon112 wrote:OK, screw this dancing around the issue with careful wording! I quit! I've always wanted to see what would happen to people in these romance novel setups if there was just ONE friggin sane person who told them exactly what was happening and why, so that's what they bloody well get!
Oh my... We broke Sicon.
GO FOR IT!

Re: Main discussion thread

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Sun Oct 14, 2012 11:12 pm
by Sicon112
Oh god that felt good to get that out of my system.
Re: Main discussion thread

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Sun Oct 14, 2012 11:14 pm
by Sicon112
I just realized that my comment was over twice the size of the original article... O.o
Re: Main discussion thread

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Sun Oct 14, 2012 11:19 pm
by IslaKariese
Sicon112 wrote:I just realized that my comment was over twice the size of the original article... O.o
...Yup, that's about par for the course.

Re: Main discussion thread

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Sun Oct 14, 2012 11:20 pm
by Sicon112
IslaKariese wrote:Sicon112 wrote:I just realized that my comment was over twice the size of the original article... O.o
...Yup, that's about par for the course.

You aren't even surprised anymore, are you? That's kinda sad for me...
Re: Main discussion thread

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Sun Oct 14, 2012 11:21 pm
by Inukai44
Now we just need to see how Romeo reacts to the situation
Re: Main discussion thread

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Sun Oct 14, 2012 11:23 pm
by Pixelmage
Sicon112 wrote:IslaKariese wrote:Sicon112 wrote:I just realized that my comment was over twice the size of the original article... O.o
...Yup, that's about par for the course.

You aren't even surprised anymore, are you? That's kinda sad for me...
Don't be. You made us immune, after all.
Now to see his answer...