Be Careful, Guys

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Be Careful, Guys

Postby OutPaced on Fri Oct 19, 2012 1:05 am

Hey, people. New metaguard here. I got caught up on the Timeline and now I'm just trying to do what I can to help. Just wanted to address something I noticed on our <sarcasm> favorite </sarcasm> post by the world's fastest puppy-eyed loverboy.

http://romeo.ezblog.twwf.info/?p=40
Amid the constant berating of Romeo's shortsightedness on his "To Vanessa" post, we made a few meta comments to him, and he noticed. Yankee White mentioned Shakespeare, though I feel that comment was intentional. Romeo, of course, didn't know who he was. Then, Roy Hankins/Har D Har Koopa mentioned something about Romeo's "better life expectancy here in our world". He also immediately reacted to that. Probably not a good sign.

Maybe it would be better to avoid letting the fictionals in on how much we know of their lives? This goes double for Romeo, who is already frustrating our efforts as it is. If he finds out what we know, he'll get downright antagonistic, and we might be looking at a good ol' fashioned Face Heel Turn.

Tl;dr- watch what you say on the character pages. They don't know all of their stories or who created them. It's probably best to keep it that way.
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Re: Be Careful, Guys

Postby Sicon112 on Fri Oct 19, 2012 1:08 am

OutPaced wrote:Hey, people. New metaguard here. I got caught up on the Timeline and now I'm just trying to do what I can to help. Just wanted to address something I noticed on our <sarcasm> favorite </sarcasm> post by the world's fastest puppy-eyed loverboy.

http://romeo.ezblog.twwf.info/?p=40
Amid the constant berating of Romeo's shortsightedness on his "To Vanessa" post, we made a few meta comments to him, and he noticed. Yankee White mentioned Shakespeare, though I feel that comment was intentional. Romeo, of course, didn't know who he was. Then, Roy Hankins/Har D Har Koopa mentioned something about Romeo's "better life expectancy here in our world". He also immediately reacted to that. Probably not a good sign.

Maybe it would be better to avoid letting the fictionals in on how much we know of their lives? This goes double for Romeo, who is already frustrating our efforts as it is. If he finds out what we know, he'll get downright antagonistic, and we might be looking at a good ol' fashioned Face Heel Turn.

Tl;dr- watch what you say on the character pages. They don't know all of their stories or who created them. It's probably best to keep it that way.


A good point, but we have been pretty careful about this so far. Holmes and Poirot are aware of their stories already, and even if they were not we would have made them aware because they are far more useful that way. In this case, it is more expedient for them to know they come from another world, but not necessarily any more than that. If he does find out, I'd be interested to see his reaction, but I think we ought to be able to handle it at the moment.

Basically, we calculate how much we should tell them to make them most useful and then run with that.
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Re: Be Careful, Guys

Postby OutPaced on Fri Oct 19, 2012 1:19 am

Sicon112 wrote:
OutPaced wrote:Hey, people. New metaguard here. I got caught up on the Timeline and now I'm just trying to do what I can to help. Just wanted to address something I noticed on our <sarcasm> favorite </sarcasm> post by the world's fastest puppy-eyed loverboy.

http://romeo.ezblog.twwf.info/?p=40
Amid the constant berating of Romeo's shortsightedness on his "To Vanessa" post, we made a few meta comments to him, and he noticed. Yankee White mentioned Shakespeare, though I feel that comment was intentional. Romeo, of course, didn't know who he was. Then, Roy Hankins/Har D Har Koopa mentioned something about Romeo's "better life expectancy here in our world". He also immediately reacted to that. Probably not a good sign.

Maybe it would be better to avoid letting the fictionals in on how much we know of their lives? This goes double for Romeo, who is already frustrating our efforts as it is. If he finds out what we know, he'll get downright antagonistic, and we might be looking at a good ol' fashioned Face Heel Turn.

Tl;dr- watch what you say on the character pages. They don't know all of their stories or who created them. It's probably best to keep it that way.


A good point, but we have been pretty careful about this so far. Holmes and Poirot are aware of their stories already, and even if they were not we would have made them aware because they are far more useful that way. In this case, it is more expedient for them to know they come from another world, but not necessarily any more than that. If he does find out, I'd be interested to see his reaction, but I think we ought to be able to handle it at the moment.

Basically, we calculate how much we should tell them to make them most useful and then run with that.


So... we wing it?


...works for me.
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Re: Be Careful, Guys

Postby Sicon112 on Fri Oct 19, 2012 1:22 am

OutPaced wrote:So... we wing it?


...works for me.


More or less. Just make sure to say something here before you post something that could mess up stuff. We usually have a few gambits going on, especially me, so it's better if we know what you are gonna do before you just go ahead and do it. Make all your errors lean toward the side of caution and we are probably gonna be OK.
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Re: Be Careful, Guys

Postby WackyMeetsPractical on Fri Oct 19, 2012 1:28 am

Basically, we try to agree upon a strategy on the forums before posting anything on the blogs. We try our best to work in unison, but we can't control what other people post. But basically, it's good etiquette to discuss what you're about to post if it's something that might cause controversy and then give others the opportunity to tell you whether it's a good or a bad idea. We all almost universally agree that telling them about their deaths is a bad idea. We also don't want to alert them to their fictional nature, mostly because that could lead them to learning about their deaths. Other than that, just use common sense. Don't step on anybody's toes and respect one another. Respecting Romeo is optional.
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Re: Be Careful, Guys

Postby Scarab on Fri Oct 19, 2012 4:43 am

OutPaced wrote:So... we wing it?


...works for me.


Welcome to the forum :D We've been doing that since the start.

Honestly with most characters there's a slow process of revealing going on, with the possible exception of Don Quixote (we don't wanna break the poor guy, he was messed in the head enough as it is, reading or knowing of his own story might really freak him out.)
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Re: Be Careful, Guys

Postby NeverSlender on Fri Oct 19, 2012 6:29 am

outpaced wrote:So... We wing it?


Okay, hands up if someone hasn't been doing this throughout?
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Re: Be Careful, Guys

Postby Scarab on Fri Oct 19, 2012 7:32 am

NeverSlender wrote:
outpaced wrote:So... We wing it?


Okay, hands up if someone hasn't been doing this throughout?


Well I think Sicon may have been planning ahead a little, but he has mentioned that he makes a lot of plans up on the fly too, which he says is the same as having no plans at all.

But asides from that...
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Re: Be Careful, Guys

Postby Zup on Fri Oct 19, 2012 7:42 am

It's best if we don't scheme, if only because schemers are not trusted. And we want to be trusted.

Unless we can scheme how to be trusted while scheming...
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Re: Be Careful, Guys

Postby NeverSlender on Fri Oct 19, 2012 7:44 am

Zup wrote:It's best if we don't scheme, if only because schemers are not trusted. And we want to be trusted.

Unless we can scheme how to be trusted while scheming...


Scheming just makes it sound bad. Planning is fine but you have to be adaptable as well.
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Re: Be Careful, Guys

Postby Zup on Fri Oct 19, 2012 7:45 am

I prefer the flexibility of total anarchy.
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Re: Be Careful, Guys

Postby NeverSlender on Fri Oct 19, 2012 7:47 am

Zup wrote:I prefer the flexibility of total anarchy.


Yeah, but it's difficult to channel anarchy into something useful.
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Re: Be Careful, Guys

Postby Zup on Fri Oct 19, 2012 7:50 am

True enough, I suppose. But it is more fun. :D Just look at the crazy threads in off-topic.
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Re: Be Careful, Guys

Postby NeverSlender on Fri Oct 19, 2012 7:52 am

Zup wrote:True enough, I suppose. But it is more fun. :D Just look at the crazy threads in off-topic.


I never said we shouldn't USE anarchy. Haven't you seen my quote on the characer page?
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Re: Be Careful, Guys

Postby YankeeWhite on Fri Oct 19, 2012 9:07 am

OutPaced wrote:Amid the constant berating of Romeo's shortsightedness on his "To Vanessa" post, we made a few meta comments to him, and he noticed. Yankee White mentioned Shakespeare, though I feel that comment was intentional. Romeo, of course, didn't know who he was.

You thought right. I was intentional. But it also fit perfectly with the romantic advice I gave.
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Re: Be Careful, Guys

Postby Sicon112 on Fri Oct 19, 2012 3:22 pm

Zup wrote:It's best if we don't scheme, if only because schemers are not trusted. And we want to be trusted.

Unless we can scheme how to be trusted while scheming...


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Re: Be Careful, Guys

Postby IslaKariese on Fri Oct 19, 2012 3:27 pm

Sicon112 wrote:
Zup wrote:It's best if we don't scheme, if only because schemers are not trusted. And we want to be trusted.

Unless we can scheme how to be trusted while scheming...

Welcome to my world.

Yeah, that thought process is practically his character quote. It's what he's best at.
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Re: Be Careful, Guys

Postby Zup on Fri Oct 19, 2012 5:13 pm

IslaKariese wrote:
Sicon112 wrote:
Zup wrote:It's best if we don't scheme, if only because schemers are not trusted. And we want to be trusted.

Unless we can scheme how to be trusted while scheming...

Welcome to my world.

Yeah, that thought process is practically his character quote. It's what he's best at.


That's almost as bad as I Know You Know I Know.
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Re: Be Careful, Guys

Postby Pixelmage on Fri Oct 19, 2012 6:57 pm

Zup wrote:
IslaKariese wrote:
Sicon112 wrote:Welcome to my world.

Yeah, that thought process is practically his character quote. It's what he's best at.


That's almost as bad as I Know You Know I Know.


That one is also as staple of Sicon's thought process.
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Re: Be Careful, Guys

Postby TheJester on Fri Oct 19, 2012 10:23 pm

Yes, I Must Say A Lot Of This Is Getting Complicated. Especially Since Romeo Has Been Told Everything Now.
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Re: Be Careful, Guys

Postby Pixelmage on Fri Oct 19, 2012 10:33 pm

TheJester wrote:Yes, I Must Say A Lot Of This Is Getting Complicated. Especially Since Romeo Has Been Told Everything Now.

He ignored everything he's been told so far... Honestly, I don't think he'd actually listen even if you gave him a flat: "You'll commit suicide soon after going back to Verona." (Don't send him that! I'm just snarking randomly here.)
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Re: Be Careful, Guys

Postby WackyMeetsPractical on Fri Oct 19, 2012 10:35 pm

Pixelmage wrote:
TheJester wrote:Yes, I Must Say A Lot Of This Is Getting Complicated. Especially Since Romeo Has Been Told Everything Now.

He ignored everything he's been told so far... Honestly, I don't think he'd actually listen even if you gave him a flat: "You'll commit suicide soon after going back to Verona." (Don't send him that! I'm just snarking randomly here.)


I wouldn't be too concerned about spoilers by this point, actually. He's already altered his continuity. Even if he were to return, he may return to a different story, or alter his story to end differently. If he isn't in love with Juliet when he returns, I don't see how his story will continue down the same path.
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Re: Be Careful, Guys

Postby Pixelmage on Fri Oct 19, 2012 10:38 pm

WackyMeetsPractical wrote:I wouldn't be too concerned about spoilers by this point, actually. He's already altered his continuity. Even if he were to return, he may return to a different story, or alter his story to end differently. If he isn't in love with Juliet when he returns, I don't see how his story will continue down the same path.


Yeah, that's the reason I don't think he'd care about us saying that... It's just that I don't really want to push these buttons. It would be an exercise in futility anyway.
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Re: Be Careful, Guys

Postby TheJester on Fri Oct 19, 2012 10:46 pm

I Can't Help But Feel Juliet Is Being Overly Demanding Y'know?
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Re: Be Careful, Guys

Postby IslaKariese on Fri Oct 19, 2012 11:02 pm

TheJester wrote:I Can't Help But Feel Juliet Is Being Overly Demanding Y'know?

Why do you say that?
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