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Re: Joe's posts

PostPosted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 12:03 pm
by NeverSlender
Dryunya wrote:
Dryunya wrote:
NeverSlender wrote:EDIT: The what we know theorizes Steintiz, not Oberon, is Moriarty.

Phew. Our perfect theories are safe. :gurt:
In that case, he is someone of more recent fiction... or maybe some technomage. :?

Um, guys, it turned out I made a mistake. It was Steinitz:
Steinitz wrote:S:I have been doing my research carefully.
S:I am nothing if not a man who knows how to learn guarded information.

I'll say it again, but this time without mistakes:
If we assume they hacked the site by themselves, it was probably him who did that. But we theorize him to be Moriarty, with all his chess motifs. He hardly had two months to get the hang of this world - he couldn't have learnt hacking in that time, even given his intelligence. There is a contradiction.

If he is Moriarty, though, he probably could have just hired somebody...


Does he say he hacked the site? I would think Oberon was the most likely of them to have done it.

Re: Joe's posts

PostPosted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 3:22 pm
by Dryunya
Steinitz telling about his methods is the only lead we have. Oberon didn't say anything to make it look that he hacked the site.

Re: Joe's posts

PostPosted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 3:48 pm
by Lordxana0
So did everyone hear MR. A's view on the attack? Is it just me or is he starting to sound like a bond villain?

Re: Joe's posts

PostPosted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 3:49 pm
by NeverSlender
Lordxana0 wrote:So did everyone hear MR. A's view on the attack? Is it just me or is he starting to sound like a bond villain?


It's made me distrust him even more. He sounds absolutely mental.

Re: Joe's posts

PostPosted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 3:55 pm
by Guyshane
NeverSlender wrote:
Lordxana0 wrote:So did everyone hear MR. A's view on the attack? Is it just me or is he starting to sound like a bond villain?


It's made me distrust him even more. He sounds absolutely mental.

Yea sounds like...well quite as honestly it sounded as bad as the threats we got last night

Re: Joe's posts

PostPosted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 3:56 pm
by NeverSlender
Guyshane wrote:
NeverSlender wrote:
Lordxana0 wrote:So did everyone hear MR. A's view on the attack? Is it just me or is he starting to sound like a bond villain?


It's made me distrust him even more. He sounds absolutely mental.

Yea sounds like...well quite as honestly it sounded as bad as the threats we got last night


My point exactly. And now he won't answer my questions.

Re: Joe's posts

PostPosted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 4:18 pm
by Dryunya
As I said, I thought he is gloating. I think he is gaining something from the situation.

Re: Joe's posts

PostPosted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 4:21 pm
by Pixelmage
Dryunya wrote:As I said, I thought he is gloating. I think he is gaining something from the situation.


But what an infinite being could gain from such events?

Re: Joe's posts

PostPosted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 4:23 pm
by NeverSlender
Pixelmage wrote:
Dryunya wrote:As I said, I thought he is gloating. I think he is gaining something from the situation.


But what an infinite being could gain from such events?


Freedom. From what we have seen, he cannot leave the void. Maybe he wants out.

Re: Joe's posts

PostPosted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 4:35 pm
by Scarab
NeverSlender wrote:
Pixelmage wrote:
Dryunya wrote:As I said, I thought he is gloating. I think he is gaining something from the situation.


But what an infinite being could gain from such events?


Freedom. From what we have seen, he cannot leave the void. Maybe he wants out.


I have suspected that too. I've been thinking for a while now that at the very least, Mister A and his folks did something which may have CAUSED this problem in the first place, and may now be trying to undo the damage they've done, or else they have some ulterior motive at play. God knows why, but your idea that he's trying to escape the void may well fit.

He's better than the Cabal, I guess, but he's still not sounding like a trustworthy guy (also, why would he not care whether we trust him? Without trust this whole thing won't work. Even if he just thinks of US as tools surely he sees the logic in giving us enough information that we consider him TRUSTWORTHY? If we really ARE the one thing standing between fiction and reality breaking down, you'd think he'd be more forthcoming with evidence.) I don't know about you guys, but all this playing us like idiots is starting to get... tiring.

Re: Joe's posts

PostPosted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 4:39 pm
by Guyshane
Nice to finally see people actually wondering if Mr.A is as on the up and up as he claims

Re: Joe's posts

PostPosted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 4:41 pm
by NeverSlender
Guyshane wrote:Nice to finally see people actually wondering if Mr.A is as on the up and up as he claims


I've been saying it since the beginning, and yeah, it is nice.

Re: Joe's posts

PostPosted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 4:42 pm
by Pixelmage
Scarab wrote:I have suspected that too. I've been thinking for a while now that at the very least, Mister A and his folks did something which may have CAUSED this problem in the first place, and may now be trying to undo the damage they've done, or else they have some ulterior motive at play. God knows why, but your idea that he's trying to escape the void may well fit.

He's better than the Cabal, I guess, but he's still not sounding like a trustworthy guy (also, why would he not care whether we trust him? Without trust this whole thing won't work. Even if he just thinks of US as tools surely he sees the logic in giving us enough information that we consider him TRUSTWORTHY? If we really ARE the one thing standing between fiction and reality breaking down, you'd think he'd be more forthcoming with evidence.) I don't know about you guys, but all this playing us like idiots is starting to get... tiring.

It's been tiring from the start. It's just that we're more vocal about it now that we've spent all our patience waiting for the exposition that's not here.

Re: Joe's posts

PostPosted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 4:42 pm
by IslaKariese
Guyshane wrote:Nice to finally see people actually wondering if Mr.A is as on the up and up as he claims

Oh, I've been doing that since Day One. Those of us who've watched both seasons of Echo Chamber particularly don't like or trust him - just think he's a metaphysical badass/Mind Screw personified.

Re: Joe's posts

PostPosted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 4:44 pm
by Guyshane
IslaKariese wrote:
Guyshane wrote:Nice to finally see people actually wondering if Mr.A is as on the up and up as he claims

Oh, I've been doing that since Day One. Those of us who've watched both seasons of Echo Chamber particularly don't like or trust him - just think he's a metaphysical badass/Mind Screw personified.

Its just that I got crap for mistrusting him after about a week of my entry into the game

Re: Joe's posts

PostPosted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 4:45 pm
by NeverSlender
Guyshane wrote:
IslaKariese wrote:
Guyshane wrote:Nice to finally see people actually wondering if Mr.A is as on the up and up as he claims

Oh, I've been doing that since Day One. Those of us who've watched both seasons of Echo Chamber particularly don't like or trust him - just think he's a metaphysical badass/Mind Screw personified.

Its just that I got crap for mistrusting him after about a week of my entry into the game


Same. I got ridiculous amounts of crap on the sending them back thread.

Re: Joe's posts

PostPosted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 4:47 pm
by IslaKariese
NeverSlender wrote:
Guyshane wrote:Its just that I got crap for mistrusting him after about a week of my entry into the game

Same. I got ridiculous amounts of crap on the sending them back thread.

I made a comment about not trusting him, but I think I was just ignored in general since no one said anything back.

Re: Joe's posts

PostPosted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 4:52 pm
by Pixelmage
IslaKariese wrote:
NeverSlender wrote:
Guyshane wrote:Its just that I got crap for mistrusting him after about a week of my entry into the game

Same. I got ridiculous amounts of crap on the sending them back thread.

I made a comment about not trusting him, but I think I was just ignored in general since no one said anything back.


Same here. Just ignored me and I stopped talking about it. Who's insane now?! Huh? :lol:

Re: Joe's posts

PostPosted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 4:53 pm
by IslaKariese
Pixelmage wrote:Same here. Just ignored me and I stopped talking about it. Who's insane now?! Huh? :lol:

...Still you, dear. But it's the good kind, is it not?

Re: Joe's posts

PostPosted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 4:54 pm
by NeverSlender
I kept talking about it and the crap got worse. Then the whole endgame thing came up and the conversation moved on.

Re: Joe's posts

PostPosted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 4:58 pm
by IslaKariese
NeverSlender wrote:I kept talking about it and the crap got worse. Then the whole endgame thing came up and the conversation moved on.

Yeah, that's about all you can do, sometimes. Make your stand and move on until someone else sees your side. It gets annoying sometimes (don't think I haven't noticed your 'Does anyone actually read my posts?' comments), but it's human fallacy and error.

Re: Joe's posts

PostPosted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 5:00 pm
by NeverSlender
IslaKariese wrote:
NeverSlender wrote:I kept talking about it and the crap got worse. Then the whole endgame thing came up and the conversation moved on.

Yeah, that's about all you can do, sometimes. Make your stand and move on until someone else sees your side. It gets annoying sometimes (don't think I haven't noticed your 'Does anyone actually read my posts?' comments), but it's human fallacy and error.


I think it could be much more important now. He's avoiding questions and appears genuinely unhinged in his latest video. A new thread may be needed.

Re: Joe's posts

PostPosted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 5:05 pm
by IslaKariese
NeverSlender wrote:I think it could be much more important now. He's avoiding questions and appears genuinely unhinged in his latest video. A new thread may be needed.

Perhaps. He came across to me as less unhinged and more annoyed and slightly victorious that the Cabal came forward at all.

Re: Joe's posts

PostPosted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 5:13 pm
by IslaKariese
Alright, I know Dryunya just made a thread to that very same end (ie, we don't trust Mr. A), but why was it suddenly locked?

Re: Joe's posts

PostPosted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 5:17 pm
by Pixelmage
IslaKariese wrote:Alright, I know Dryunya just made a thread to that very same end (ie, we don't trust Mr. A), but why was it suddenly locked?


Meaning, we can't talk about how infuriating his behavior is? Or Rule 3 on the word "ass" in the title?
I don't think we're forbidden to discuss his behavior though... It would be... infuriating.