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New group chat

Postby Zup on Sun Oct 21, 2012 7:23 pm

Hey guys, Hercule commented on his blog (in the comments on his latest post) this link. The mystery thickens. It certainly seems like Angelus and Pyramus might be good guys swayed by Oberon. And where's Steinitz?
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Re: New group chat

Postby Qara-Xuan Zenith on Sun Oct 21, 2012 7:29 pm

Steinitz was there. He started the conversation, at the top.

And I agree, Angelus seems like a well-intentioned extremist. Pyramus, too, but he's more compromised.
And Steinitz seems to be the mastermind behind this whole thing. Which makes sense, since we're so sure he's Moriarty.
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Re: New group chat

Postby Pixelmage on Sun Oct 21, 2012 7:31 pm

Before you guys ask. I'm iterating the other blog's names on the Pheeble chatroom. No success so far.
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Re: New group chat

Postby Dekso on Sun Oct 21, 2012 7:34 pm

I wonder who the 'acquaintance' is, another fictional from the same story as Angelus, or just a completely random person?
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Re: New group chat

Postby Pixelmage on Sun Oct 21, 2012 7:36 pm

Dekso wrote:I wonder who the 'acquaintance' is, another fictional from the same story as Angelus, or just a completely random person?

Likely a person. Another fictional would be in the chat with them.
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Re: New group chat

Postby Zup on Sun Oct 21, 2012 7:40 pm

You guys notice that the chat seems to start in the middle of a conversation. Where's the beginning?
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Re: New group chat

Postby Qara-Xuan Zenith on Sun Oct 21, 2012 7:47 pm

Does it pick up from intro6?
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Re: New group chat

Postby Dryunya on Sun Oct 21, 2012 7:49 pm

Considering that it's an archived session, they may be chatting in some main room, and packing up whatever they thought would be relevant. Why they'd leave it around is a mystery, though. :gurt:
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Re: New group chat

Postby Pixelmage on Sun Oct 21, 2012 7:51 pm

Dryunya wrote:Considering that it's an archived session, they may be chatting in some main room, and packing up whatever they thought would be relevant. Why they'd leave it around is a mystery, though. :gurt:

This. These logs are left intentionally. Unless we can access the main chatroom or the master log, we'll only read fragments they allow us to read.

With this one, they're just confiming what we know about the notebook development.
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Re: New group chat

Postby NeverSlender on Sun Oct 21, 2012 7:52 pm

There must be some way to access an active chat. How, I'm not sure.
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Re: New group chat

Postby Wysp on Sun Oct 21, 2012 7:54 pm

What I want to know is how did Hercule find this?

P.S. Pyramus is likely the one who left the message about her appearance...if that's the case, it rules Romeo out.
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Re: New group chat

Postby Dryunya on Sun Oct 21, 2012 7:55 pm

NeverSlender wrote:There must be some way to access an active chat. How, I'm not sure.

For meta reasons, I don't think there is. Live chat is... undesirable, it can get out of hand quickly.

Wysp wrote:What I want to know is how did Hercule find this?

Me too. Finding a chatroom is not quite what I'd expect from a detective who didn't know what computer is 2 months ago. :?
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Re: New group chat

Postby NeverSlender on Sun Oct 21, 2012 7:57 pm

Dryunya wrote:For meta reasons, I don't think there is. Live chat is... undesirable, it can get out of hand quickly.


Well they have to be chatting somewhere.

The site they use annoys me. It's so basic, it HAS to have another use. I mean how do they even upload archives? And why is the registered name Ph Ee Ble?
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Re: New group chat

Postby Dryunya on Sun Oct 21, 2012 7:58 pm

NeverSlender wrote:
Dryunya wrote:For meta reasons, I don't think there is. Live chat is... undesirable, it can get out of hand quickly.


Well they have to be chatting somewhere.

I mean that there probably won't be any realtime interaction with the puppetmasters. Just too unpredictable.
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Re: New group chat

Postby Dryunya on Sun Oct 21, 2012 8:04 pm

One more detail:
Pyramus wrote:She is a very lovely woman. I am sure that we could simply explain our situation to her and it would all be fine. She could walk away.

I think Pyramus was the one who left the "sculpted" message.
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Re: New group chat

Postby Wysp on Sun Oct 21, 2012 8:05 pm

I commented on that above, yeah.

If he's the same person, then that rules Romeo out. There's no way that that throaty French adult voice was an Italian teenager.
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Re: New group chat

Postby Dryunya on Sun Oct 21, 2012 8:08 pm

Another thought. They were following the therapist, and they could have gotten her blog address through us... or some other source, which can be the same as Mr. A's. I think we should ask him where he got her address from.
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Re: New group chat

Postby NeverSlender on Sun Oct 21, 2012 8:09 pm

Could the cabal be the people following Sweeney and leaving him messages?
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Re: New group chat

Postby Pixelmage on Sun Oct 21, 2012 8:12 pm

NeverSlender wrote:
Dryunya wrote:For meta reasons, I don't think there is. Live chat is... undesirable, it can get out of hand quickly.


Well they have to be chatting somewhere.

The site they use annoys me. It's so basic, it HAS to have another use. I mean how do they even upload archives? And why is the registered name Ph Ee Ble?


Direct pages. As in pheeble.net/activechat.php (won't work, by the way) as opposed to just pheeble.net to the default.php, that is the archive.

HOW Angelus gave that info to the others is the key. I mean, it's probably a handwave with no trail to follow, but without a trail, the only option to know is real hacking.
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Re: New group chat

Postby Dryunya on Sun Oct 21, 2012 8:12 pm

NeverSlender wrote:Could the cabal be the people following Sweeney and leaving him messages?

I'm absolutely sure they are. Why shouldn't they be? :|

Pixelmage wrote:HOW Angelus gave that info to the others is the key. I mean, it's probably a handwave with no trail to follow, but without a trail, the only option to know is real hacking.

I've been tempted to try, but hacking isn't really an option (it's an unconditional Game Breaker).
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Re: New group chat

Postby NeverSlender on Sun Oct 21, 2012 8:14 pm

It just seems strange. You'd think they'd be more direct if they thought they could recruit him.
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Re: New group chat

Postby IslaKariese on Sun Oct 21, 2012 8:14 pm

Dryunya wrote:
NeverSlender wrote:Could the cabal be the people following Sweeney and leaving him messages?

I'm absolutely sure they are. Why shouldn't they be? :|

They only seem hands on to the point of sending messages. Perhaps they have lackeys to do the actually following?
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Re: New group chat

Postby Dryunya on Sun Oct 21, 2012 8:16 pm

Well, if that's what you meant... It's entirely possible, and would make our task a lot harder. But they weren't mentioned so far, and I hope it will stay this way. :?
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Re: New group chat

Postby Sicon112 on Sun Oct 21, 2012 9:46 pm

I've tried a significant amount of varying archive codes, but so far not a lot of luck. I'll discount the blogs then and look for character named archives.
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Re: New group chat

Postby Pixelmage on Sun Oct 21, 2012 9:55 pm

Sicon112 wrote:I've tried a significant amount of varying archive codes, but so far not a lot of luck. I'll discount the blogs then and look for character named archives.

We have no access to the Log's metadata (computer terms metadata). So there's no way to know when they create the chatlogs... My guess is that they enable the archives right before allowing us to reach it... So, there was no westwitch when I tried earlier, but now that Holmes found that letter, there could be a westwitch log (didn't retest it yet - no change, westwitch invalid). If so, trying to bruteforce a archive password won't work at all.
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