[FOUND] Echo Location: Duffy Square, New York City.

[WackyMeetsPractical]

At least we get her character image for the Tvtropes page... And yeah, the Personal Rain Cloud is aways a nice touch.
Nice call Wacky.

It does kind of show how much these character's presence is altering reality. Things like personal rain cloud can happen now in reality. That's big.

But WAS it happening in reality, or was that just a representation of what happened? We are seeing these through the echoes fictionals leave behind. It's likely that they do not exactly reflect what real people present at the time saw.

You do make a good point there. Obviously, what we're seeing is just a comic version of actual events. The people there aren't two dimensional cartoons and there probably weren't any actual speech balloons floating in the air. So we probably should be careful deciding what is based on reality and what is artistic license. That being said, something like a personal rain cloud is something that should be verifiable. If there was no personal rain cloud, then we must assume either it rained for everyone in New York City or it rained for no one. The witch described it raining on her in her blog, so either it rained in the entire town, or she did in fact have her own raincloud. Holmes was in town at the time, perhaps we should ask him if it was raining that day. If he says it was, then the personal raincloud was just an artistic representation. If he says it wasn't, then she had her own raincloud.

[Sicon112]

You do make a good point there. Obviously, what we're seeing is just a comic version of actual events. The people there aren't two dimensional cartoons and there probably weren't any actual speech balloons floating in the air. So we probably should be careful deciding what is based on reality and what is artistic license. That being said, something like a personal rain cloud is something that should be verifiable. If there was no personal rain cloud, then we must assume either it rained for everyone in New York City or it rained for no one. The witch described it raining on her in her blog, so either it rained in the entire town, or she did in fact have her own raincloud. Holmes was in town at the time, perhaps we should ask him if it was raining that day. If he says it was, then the personal raincloud was just an artistic representation. If he says it wasn't, then she had her own raincloud.

If you want to go that in depth, sure, go ahead. It doesn't really seem important at the moment, but who knows...

[WackyMeetsPractical]

You do make a good point there. Obviously, what we're seeing is just a comic version of actual events. The people there aren't two dimensional cartoons and there probably weren't any actual speech balloons floating in the air. So we probably should be careful deciding what is based on reality and what is artistic license. That being said, something like a personal rain cloud is something that should be verifiable. If there was no personal rain cloud, then we must assume either it rained for everyone in New York City or it rained for no one. The witch described it raining on her in her blog, so either it rained in the entire town, or she did in fact have her own raincloud. Holmes was in town at the time, perhaps we should ask him if it was raining that day. If he says it was, then the personal raincloud was just an artistic representation. If he says it wasn't, then she had her own raincloud.

If you want to go that in depth, sure, go ahead. It doesn't really seem important at the moment, but who knows...

Might not be all that important right now, but more knowledge is always a good thing. Think of what we could learn.

If it turns out it was an actual personal rain cloud, then that opens up the possibility for many other tropes to occur in reality, Graphical tropes, horror tropes, fantasy tropes, animation tropes. Imagine if people's eyes start popping out of their sockets when they're surprised, or hearts appear over people's heads when they fall in love, and who knows what else. Most of it may be harmless, but it would be a clear sign that reality is deteriorating, confirming our beliefs that the fictional characters cannot stay here.

If it turns out that it was just an artistic choice, then we at least learn a little bit more about the nature of the comics, and thus the nature of the echos. We'll know not to take everything the comic shows us at face value and we'd be more careful about trying to over analyze them and search for clues in them.

Either way, we do win a little, and learn something.

[Qara-Xuan Zenith]

The witch described it raining on her in her blog

Actually, I'm pretty sure she described it raining once she got back to Kansas.

Shortly after I got back to Kansas there was a storm here. Perhaps it was a typhoon — I don’t know. In any case, there was rain.

[EdwardTheAwesome]

Might not be all that important right now, but more knowledge is always a good thing. Think of what we could learn.

If it turns out it was an actual personal rain cloud, then that opens up the possibility for many other tropes to occur in reality, Graphical tropes, horror tropes, fantasy tropes, animation tropes. Imagine if people's eyes start popping out of their sockets when they're surprised, or hearts appear over people's heads when they fall in love, and who knows what else. Most of it may be harmless, but it would be a clear sign that reality is deteriorating, confirming our beliefs that the fictional characters cannot stay here.

If it turns out that it was just an artistic choice, then we at least learn a little 6bit more about the nature of the comics, and thus the nature of the echos. We'll know not to take everything the comic shows us at face value and we'd be more careful about trying to over analyze them and search for clues in them.

Either way, we do win a little, and learn something.

I feel like some of these things would be...embarrassing. It must really kind of suck to be in Fictional Land (TM) if you wind up...I dunno. Wearing your heart on your sleeve all the time, or losing to the guy we think of as the "good guy" when, in reality, everyone's the good guy in their own stories. Or at least the protagonist.

I am starting to really understand why some of the characters - including the Cabal - would want to stay here, under any means necessary (even if those means aren't great).

[WackyMeetsPractical]

The witch described it raining on her in her blog

Actually, I'm pretty sure she described it raining once she got back to Kansas.

Shortly after I got back to Kansas there was a storm here. Perhaps it was a typhoon — I don’t know. In any case, there was rain.

Actually, I think we're both right. In "Ugh" she mentioned it raining just before sitting by the Duffy statue, where the echo occurred.

[WackyMeetsPractical]

Might not be all that important right now, but more knowledge is always a good thing. Think of what we could learn.

If it turns out it was an actual personal rain cloud, then that opens up the possibility for many other tropes to occur in reality, Graphical tropes, horror tropes, fantasy tropes, animation tropes. Imagine if people's eyes start popping out of their sockets when they're surprised, or hearts appear over people's heads when they fall in love, and who knows what else. Most of it may be harmless, but it would be a clear sign that reality is deteriorating, confirming our beliefs that the fictional characters cannot stay here.

If it turns out that it was just an artistic choice, then we at least learn a little 6bit more about the nature of the comics, and thus the nature of the echos. We'll know not to take everything the comic shows us at face value and we'd be more careful about trying to over analyze them and search for clues in them.

Either way, we do win a little, and learn something.

I feel like some of these things would be...embarrassing. It must really kind of suck to be in Fictional Land (TM) if you wind up...I dunno. Wearing your heart on your sleeve all the time, or losing to the guy we think of as the "good guy" when, in reality, everyone's the good guy in their own stories. Or at least the protagonist.

I am starting to really understand why some of the characters - including the Cabal - would want to stay here, under any means necessary (even if those means aren't great).

I do understand, somewhat. Though personally, I think I'm of the opposite view. I think I'd rather end up in a world where there is order and rules, where everything has a point and a purpose, and if you're the good guy, you always win. But that's not really the topic of this thread so I'll stop talking now.

[EdwardTheAwesome]

I do understand, somewhat. Though personally, I think I'm of the opposite view. I think I'd rather end up in a world where there is order and rules, where everything has a point and a purpose, and if you're the good guy, you always win. But that's not really the topic of this thread so I'll stop talking now.

When the rules aren't made to benefit you, though...I mean, Adam seems like a good guy. Juliet's pretty delightful and Romeo...doesn't deserve to die, at least. I would rather be in control of my own life that subject to the rules of some author who wants to make a point about...I dunno. Existentialism.

But yeah, not the thread for this