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Re: Ron Deckland and Peter Pan

PostPosted: Tue Oct 23, 2012 9:44 pm
by WackyMeetsPractical
Pixelmage wrote:
WackyMeetsPractical wrote:Linked Mr. A to the video, since it looked like no one else had done it. He's confirmed it's Peter Pan. He also believes it's the last POI we need to track down. I don't quite believe him. There were so many from the videos Joe showed us that we haven't found.

Assuming Sparkly = Peter Pan and Wedding Guy = Frank, we still have the Plague Doctors, Mermaid and Cerberus to actually locate. The puppets at least we know where to look for. And we know that Cindy is in NY.


Tweeted Mr. A about these extra characters. Apparently he has a secret project regarding them. Also, he seems to believe sparkling man is Pan. I didn't want to believe it because I thought he would've looked younger. Also, I don't get why he would be jogging if he could fly.

Re: Ron Deckland and Peter Pan

PostPosted: Tue Oct 23, 2012 9:46 pm
by Pixelmage
WackyMeetsPractical wrote:
Pixelmage wrote:
WackyMeetsPractical wrote:Linked Mr. A to the video, since it looked like no one else had done it. He's confirmed it's Peter Pan. He also believes it's the last POI we need to track down. I don't quite believe him. There were so many from the videos Joe showed us that we haven't found.

Assuming Sparkly = Peter Pan and Wedding Guy = Frank, we still have the Plague Doctors, Mermaid and Cerberus to actually locate. The puppets at least we know where to look for. And we know that Cindy is in NY.


Tweeted Mr. A about these extra characters. Apparently he has a secret project regarding them. Also, he seems to believe sparkling man is Pan. I didn't want to believe it because I thought he would've looked younger. Also, I don't get why he would be jogging if he could fly.


Well, if the sparkles were fairy dust and he was running with them on, it can be pretty safe to state that he can't fly...

Re: Ron Deckland and Peter Pan

PostPosted: Tue Oct 23, 2012 9:49 pm
by eli_gone_crazy
WackyMeetsPractical wrote:
eli_gone_crazy wrote:O_O Peter pan, Wendy, and his shadow.

Wendy sews back on Peter's shadow so he can go back to Never Land.


Don't think it's the same Wendy from the story.


Neither do I, however what is the coincidence that Peter happens to be in a house with a young girl named wendy?

Re: Ron Deckland and Peter Pan

PostPosted: Tue Oct 23, 2012 9:50 pm
by Adell
WackyMeetsPractical wrote:
Pixelmage wrote:
WackyMeetsPractical wrote:Linked Mr. A to the video, since it looked like no one else had done it. He's confirmed it's Peter Pan. He also believes it's the last POI we need to track down. I don't quite believe him. There were so many from the videos Joe showed us that we haven't found.

Assuming Sparkly = Peter Pan and Wedding Guy = Frank, we still have the Plague Doctors, Mermaid and Cerberus to actually locate. The puppets at least we know where to look for. And we know that Cindy is in NY.


Tweeted Mr. A about these extra characters. Apparently he has a secret project regarding them. Also, he seems to believe sparkling man is Pan. I didn't want to believe it because I thought he would've looked younger. Also, I don't get why he would be jogging if he could fly.


WMG: He could have aged from not being in neverland anymore.

Re: Ron Deckland and Peter Pan

PostPosted: Tue Oct 23, 2012 9:51 pm
by WackyMeetsPractical
Pixelmage wrote:
WackyMeetsPractical wrote:
Pixelmage wrote:Tweeted Mr. A about these extra characters. Apparently he has a secret project regarding them. Also, he seems to believe sparkling man is Pan. I didn't want to believe it because I thought he would've looked younger. Also, I don't get why he would be jogging if he could fly.


Well, if the sparkles were fairy dust and he was running with them on, it can be pretty safe to state that he can't fly...


Or maybe he has a limited supply.

eli_gone_crazy wrote:Neither do I, however what is the coincidence that Peter happens to be in a house with a young girl named wendy?


I don't think it's a coincidence. I think he's going into houses specifically with young girls named Wendy.

Re: Ron Deckland and Peter Pan

PostPosted: Tue Oct 23, 2012 9:53 pm
by Pixelmage
eli_gone_crazy wrote:Neither do I, however what is the coincidence that Peter happens to be in a house with a young girl named wendy?

Well, maybe he was looking for a Wendy. Stalking the parks for one?

Re: Ron Deckland and Peter Pan

PostPosted: Tue Oct 23, 2012 10:04 pm
by eli_gone_crazy
Pixelmage wrote:
eli_gone_crazy wrote:Neither do I, however what is the coincidence that Peter happens to be in a house with a young girl named wendy?

Well, maybe he was looking for a Wendy. Stalking the parks for one?


ok, but if you listen to the audio, she cant be more than ten years old. surrounded by adults focused on keeping creepy people away.
I guess what I'm saying is, there is a pattern.
Maybe he HAS to find a girl named Wendy, or feels the compulsion to because of his storyline.

Re: Ron Deckland and Peter Pan

PostPosted: Tue Oct 23, 2012 10:07 pm
by Pixelmage
eli_gone_crazy wrote:
Pixelmage wrote:
eli_gone_crazy wrote:Neither do I, however what is the coincidence that Peter happens to be in a house with a young girl named wendy?

Well, maybe he was looking for a Wendy. Stalking the parks for one?


ok, but if you listen to the audio, she cant be more than ten years old. surrounded by adults focused on keeping creepy people away.
I guess what I'm saying is, there is a pattern.
Maybe he HAS to find a girl named Wendy, or feels the compulsion to because of his storyline.

That's what I said.
I just called him a Stalker too. If he was looking for a young Wendy specifically, how would he locate one? Hang around the parks where the little girls are and follow the families home once he identifies his friend. And since our first glimpse of him was running around a park... No? To my eyes, that's one very creepy Peter Pan.

Re: Ron Deckland and Peter Pan

PostPosted: Tue Oct 23, 2012 10:14 pm
by eli_gone_crazy
Pixelmage wrote:
eli_gone_crazy wrote:
Pixelmage wrote:Well, maybe he was looking for a Wendy. Stalking the parks for one?


ok, but if you listen to the audio, she cant be more than ten years old. surrounded by adults focused on keeping creepy people away.
I guess what I'm saying is, there is a pattern.
Maybe he HAS to find a girl named Wendy, or feels the compulsion to because of his storyline.

That's what I said.
I just called him a Stalker too. If he was looking for a young Wendy specifically, how would he locate one? Hang around the parks where the little girls are and follow the families home once he identifies his friend. And since our first glimpse of him was running around a park... No? To my eyes, that's one very creepy Peter Pan.


Ok, just hear me out. idk if this makes sense. but what if the characters still feel the "weight" of their stories??
like take Adam for instance. In the book, his main goal in life is to live normally and make a friend. what does he do here? gets a job and meets a girl.
and holmes and poirot immediately began solving our mysteries.
idk, just a thought.

EDIT: just saw your other post. and yay I'm not crazy!
anyway, can't we use scenario theory to our advantage? like checking missing child reports or something in Pittsburgh?

Re: Ron Deckland and Peter Pan

PostPosted: Tue Oct 23, 2012 10:15 pm
by Sicon112
eli_gone_crazy wrote:Ok, just hear me out. idk if this makes sense. but what if the characters still feel the "weight" of their stories??
like take Adam for instance. In the book, his main goal in life is to live normally and make a friend. what does he do here? gets a job and meets a girl.
and holmes and poirot immediately began solving our mysteries.
idk, just a thought.


Again, Scenario Theory. It's confirmed. The characters aren't the only things coming through. Their plot conventions and story types follow. Little sections of the worlds they originate in.

Re: Ron Deckland and Peter Pan

PostPosted: Tue Oct 23, 2012 10:19 pm
by eli_gone_crazy
sorry, I had seen Pixelmage's post after I finished the other. my bad.

Re: Ron Deckland and Peter Pan

PostPosted: Wed Oct 24, 2012 6:04 am
by Scarab
Adell wrote:
WackyMeetsPractical wrote:Linked Mr. A to the video, since it looked like no one else had done it. He's confirmed it's Peter Pan. He also believes it's the last POI we need to track down. I don't quite believe him. There were so many from the videos Joe showed us that we haven't found.


Cinderalla, the invisible man (or death/slender/whatever) and the Plague Mask guys we're still missing. Maybe these are the only ones that left echoes behind, so the ones I just mentioned aren't as important? I don't know. We still need to find a way to send them back though, right?


Maybe we just need to find the biggest characters in order to activate any kind of plan for getting them back.

I mean Cinderella and the Little Mermaid are famous, but they're just one off fairy tales in comaprison to books and series with large ammounts of text,so maybe they don't have as big an impact on the wall?

Which... would suggest he has some idea of what to do next.

Re: Ron Deckland and Peter Pan

PostPosted: Wed Oct 24, 2012 9:59 am
by Dekso
On 'fictionalthreat' it used to mention something like "the kid in green on trial, he's from neverland". So... do we have any metaguards that are lawyers. :p

(Also I think they need to work on Peter's accent a bit)

Re: Ron Deckland and Peter Pan

PostPosted: Wed Oct 24, 2012 10:09 am
by Qara-Xuan Zenith
Dekso wrote:
(Also I think they need to work on Peter's accent a bit)


No reason he has to be British, just because he's from a British book. By all rights, he should have a Neverland accent. ;)

Re: Ron Deckland and Peter Pan

PostPosted: Wed Oct 24, 2012 11:04 am
by Victin
Adell wrote:
WackyMeetsPractical wrote:Linked Mr. A to the video, since it looked like no one else had done it. He's confirmed it's Peter Pan. He also believes it's the last POI we need to track down. I don't quite believe him. There were so many from the videos Joe showed us that we haven't found.


Cinderalla, the invisible man (or death/slender/whatever) and the Plague Mask guys we're still missing. Maybe these are the only ones that left echoes behind, so the ones I just mentioned aren't as important? I don't know. We still need to find a way to send them back though, right?

The Plague Doctors could be related to Doctor Victor, wasn't he German?
The Mermaid may be related to Pan.
And Cerberus... I don't know.

Re: Ron Deckland and Peter Pan

PostPosted: Wed Oct 24, 2012 11:06 am
by Scarab
Victin wrote:The Plague Doctors could be related to Doctor Victor, wasn't he German?
The Mermaid may be related to Pan.
And Cerberus... I don't know.


Are we positive it was Cerberus? There are a lot of black dog myths in the world, they're sespecially common here in England, hell there's ment to be one not too far from where I live.

Re: Ron Deckland and Peter Pan

PostPosted: Wed Oct 24, 2012 11:07 am
by Victin
Scarab wrote:
Victin wrote:The Plague Doctors could be related to Doctor Victor, wasn't he German?
The Mermaid may be related to Pan.
And Cerberus... I don't know.


Are we positive it was Cerberus? There are a lot of black dog myths in the world, they're sespecially common here in England, hell there's ment to be one not too far from where I live.

Actually, the real Cerberus had some snake related features. And as a side-note, Peter Pan wasn't a kid.

BTW, could the "mermaid" be Moby Dick?

Re: Ron Deckland and Peter Pan

PostPosted: Wed Oct 24, 2012 11:20 am
by agoraoptera
Sicon112 wrote:
eli_gone_crazy wrote:Ok, just hear me out. idk if this makes sense. but what if the characters still feel the "weight" of their stories??
like take Adam for instance. In the book, his main goal in life is to live normally and make a friend. what does he do here? gets a job and meets a girl.
and holmes and poirot immediately began solving our mysteries.
idk, just a thought.


Again, Scenario Theory. It's confirmed. The characters aren't the only things coming through. Their plot conventions and story types follow. Little sections of the worlds they originate in.

Plot conventions? Wouldn't it be just their habits and behaviour? They're acting in-character, isn't that just it?

Re: Ron Deckland and Peter Pan

PostPosted: Wed Oct 24, 2012 11:22 am
by Qara-Xuan Zenith
It's not specifically "in-character" for the Witch to want to be in Kansas, but she's drawn there anyway, because of her story.
...Although to be fair, I can't come up with any other examples of this, unless you count Pan being mystically drawn to girls named Wendy, and that's the topic under discussion now.

Re: Ron Deckland and Peter Pan

PostPosted: Wed Oct 24, 2012 11:24 am
by Scarab
Qara-Xuan Zenith wrote:It's not specifically "in-character" for the Witch to want to be in Kansas, but she's drawn there anyway, because of her story.
...Although to be fair, I can't come up with any other examples of this, unless you count Pan being mystically drawn to girls named Wendy, and that's the topic under discussion now.


Maybe he's trying to find HIS Wendy specifically?

Re: Ron Deckland and Peter Pan

PostPosted: Wed Oct 24, 2012 11:26 am
by Qara-Xuan Zenith
Scarab wrote:
Qara-Xuan Zenith wrote:It's not specifically "in-character" for the Witch to want to be in Kansas, but she's drawn there anyway, because of her story.
...Although to be fair, I can't come up with any other examples of this, unless you count Pan being mystically drawn to girls named Wendy, and that's the topic under discussion now.


Maybe he's trying to find HIS Wendy specifically?


That raises the question of how he found people named Wendy, which... frankly, is kind of creepy. Possible, but creepy.
Less creepy is that he somehow naturally ends up at houses with girls named Wendy, as opposed to any other name.

Re: Ron Deckland and Peter Pan

PostPosted: Wed Oct 24, 2012 11:27 am
by WackyMeetsPractical
agoraoptera wrote:
Sicon112 wrote:
eli_gone_crazy wrote:Ok, just hear me out. idk if this makes sense. but what if the characters still feel the "weight" of their stories??
like take Adam for instance. In the book, his main goal in life is to live normally and make a friend. what does he do here? gets a job and meets a girl.
and holmes and poirot immediately began solving our mysteries.
idk, just a thought.


Again, Scenario Theory. It's confirmed. The characters aren't the only things coming through. Their plot conventions and story types follow. Little sections of the worlds they originate in.

Plot conventions? Wouldn't it be just their habits and behaviour? They're acting in-character, isn't that just it?


I agree with this. They're the same characters, so they will act the same way here as they did in their stories. If the stories are repeating themselves, that's only because that's what the characters would normally be doing.

As one of the detectives pointed out earlier, the reason they're always stumbling onto mysteries everywhere they go is because they are detectives and they are specifically offering their services as detectives and looking for things to solve.

Peter Pan, who once met a girl named Wendy and took her to Neverland, is perhaps seeking out girls named Wendy and doing the same, perhaps because he believes it might help him return home or something like that.

The characters are causing their own stories to happen, not because the stories are following them out of the wall, but because that's what these characters do, no matter where they are.

Re: Ron Deckland and Peter Pan

PostPosted: Wed Oct 24, 2012 11:28 am
by Victin
Scarab wrote:
Qara-Xuan Zenith wrote:It's not specifically "in-character" for the Witch to want to be in Kansas, but she's drawn there anyway, because of her story.
...Although to be fair, I can't come up with any other examples of this, unless you count Pan being mystically drawn to girls named Wendy, and that's the topic under discussion now.


Maybe he's trying to find HIS Wendy specifically?

Wasn't that the plot of his second movie by Disney?

Re: Ron Deckland and Peter Pan

PostPosted: Wed Oct 24, 2012 11:29 am
by WackyMeetsPractical
Qara-Xuan Zenith wrote:It's not specifically "in-character" for the Witch to want to be in Kansas, but she's drawn there anyway, because of her story.
...Although to be fair, I can't come up with any other examples of this, unless you count Pan being mystically drawn to girls named Wendy, and that's the topic under discussion now.


There's really nothing in the witch's story that will make her drawn to Kansas. More likely is that she landed there first, and made it her headquarters. Like Quixote, she may not find it too practical to stray too far from her origin point.

Re: Ron Deckland and Peter Pan

PostPosted: Wed Oct 24, 2012 11:45 am
by agoraoptera
WackyMeetsPractical wrote:The characters are causing their own stories to happen, not because the stories are following them out of the wall, but because that's what these characters do, no matter where they are.

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