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agoraoptera wrote:

WackyMeetsPractical wrote:The characters are causing their own stories to happen, not because the stories are following them out of the wall, but because that's what these characters do, no matter where they are.

WMG: When this ARG ends, the community stays together and we do nothing at all.

Oh... No edit there... I don't see any edit. Nope, no edit to be found.

None at all.

I thought you were meaning some "just chillin'" activity, but...
I see what you did there.

Or after this is over we could write stuff from the characters points of view, maybe anecdotes as the go about their adventures in our world.

Anyway, should I put Peter on the map? Or is his location vague enough to not warrant it?

Krika wrote:Or after this is over we could write stuff from the characters points of view, maybe anecdotes as the go about their adventures in our world.

Anyway, should I put Peter on the map? Or is his location vague enough to not warrant it?

You could probably mark it as a Pan sighting. We really have no idea where he is now, but he was definitely in Pittsburgh at some point.

WackyMeetsPractical wrote:The characters are causing their own stories to happen, not because the stories are following them out of the wall, but because that's what these characters do, no matter where they are.

No, wacky, it's already been confirmed that they bring their stories and story conventions with them. Sure they act according to their character, but the story conventions have traveled along with them.

Sicon112 wrote:

WackyMeetsPractical wrote:The characters are causing their own stories to happen, not because the stories are following them out of the wall, but because that's what these characters do, no matter where they are.

No, wacky, it's already been confirmed that they bring their stories and story conventions with them. Sure they act according to their character, but the story conventions have traveled along with them.

Where's the confirmation? Get me proof.

WackyMeetsPractical wrote:

Sicon112 wrote:

WackyMeetsPractical wrote:The characters are causing their own stories to happen, not because the stories are following them out of the wall, but because that's what these characters do, no matter where they are.

No, wacky, it's already been confirmed that they bring their stories and story conventions with them. Sure they act according to their character, but the story conventions have traveled along with them.

Where's the confirmation? Get me proof.

The fact that Sherlock Holmes and Poirot have continued to solve crimes as they would in their own universes? The fact that Sweeny Todd's psychological problems continued in the real world? The fact that the Wicked Witch has her own personal raincloud, (assuming that's just symbolic and not actually a raincloud). R&J too came into the world in a certain kind of story and their behaviour in the real world has continued to work LIKE a story, perhaps the story it would have been had they not been destined to die in the original. The whole ARG is just one big story, isn't it? So that means it's probably working according to some narratuive conventions.

Then there's the fact Mister A really IS a Mysterious Employer.

Echo Chamber was to get tropes over here, meaning it's possible. Now that the wall has broken and characters are over here, their tropes and story conventions are here as well. This was mentioned during bits of the AMA, and when we were told to create a guardian story, Gurt showed up to specifically TELL me that the characters dragged parts of their world over with them.

WackyMeetsPractical wrote:Where's the confirmation? Get me proof.

viewtopic.php?f=4&t=208&start=25#p9788 This post by Gurt.

Scarab wrote:

WackyMeetsPractical wrote:

Sicon112 wrote:No, wacky, it's already been confirmed that they bring their stories and story conventions with them. Sure they act according to their character, but the story conventions have traveled along with them.

Where's the confirmation? Get me proof.

The fact that Sherlock Holmes and Poirot have continued to solve crimes as they would in their own universes? The fact that Sweeny Todd's psychological problems continued in the real world? The fact that the Wicked Witch has her own personal raincloud, (assuming that's just symbolic and not actually a raincloud). R&J too came into the world in a certain kind of story and their behaviour in the real world has continued to work LIKE a story, perhaps the story it would have been had they not been destined to die in the original. The whole ARG is just one big story, isn't it? So that means it's probably working according to some narratuive conventions.

Then there's the fact Mister A really IS a Mysterious Employer.

None of that is confirmation to me. Everything seems to be a result of the characters being who they are. Holmes and Poirot have started up their own detective agencies, so of course they will continue to solve crimes. That's who they are. Sweeney Todd has psychological problems because those don't just go away when you travel. And the fact that he's making progress and looking as if he's about to be cured seems to contradict the scenario theory, as that surely didn't happen in his own story. As for Romeo and Juliet, they're relationship has fallen apart due to reality ensuing. That's the way a real relationship would turn out given who these characters are. And Mr. A falls outside the realm of reality and fiction, so I'm unsure how he proves either of our points.

Your Occam's razor is actually pretty sharp, but don't forget that the Scenario Theory was confirmed by Gurt (who is a puppetmaster). Personally, I don't like that theory for some reason, but we've got Word Of God on it.

Sicon112 wrote:Echo Chamber was to get tropes over here, meaning it's possible. Now that the wall has broken and characters are over here, their tropes and story conventions are here as well. This was mentioned during bits of the AMA, and when we were told to create a guardian story, Gurt showed up to specifically TELL me that the characters dragged parts of their world over with them.

The whole Medusa thing has created a lot of Plot Holes for me. So far, Medusa seems to be the only fictional who's attempted to break through the wall, instead of being pulled through without any idea what happened. So I'm still questioning how canonical the whole event was. As for Gurt's "confirmation" there are several ways to interpret that. Physical things like setting and props may leak through, but can situations? And he could very well mean character tropes, the traits that are innate in the characters themselves that often lead to certain plots happening, which is the very basis of my whole argument.

At this point, I'm not discounting the Scenario theory, but I'm not convinced that it has been confirmed.

WackyMeetsPractical wrote:

Sicon112 wrote:Echo Chamber was to get tropes over here, meaning it's possible. Now that the wall has broken and characters are over here, their tropes and story conventions are here as well. This was mentioned during bits of the AMA, and when we were told to create a guardian story, Gurt showed up to specifically TELL me that the characters dragged parts of their world over with them.

The whole Medusa thing has created a lot of Plot Holes for me. So far, Medusa seems to be the only fictional who's attempted to break through the wall, instead of being pulled through without any idea what happened. So I'm still questioning how canonical the whole event was. As for Gurt's "confirmation" there are several ways to interpret that. Physical things like setting and props may leak through, but can situations? And he could very well mean character tropes, the traits that are innate in the characters themselves that often lead to certain plots happening, which is the very basis of my whole argument.

At this point, I'm not discounting the Scenario theory, but I'm not convinced that it has been confirmed.

No, that's pretty solid confirmation. He made it clear that bits of the SETTING were leaking through. That means other tropes than just character tropes. And even so, Character tropes are still story conventions. Sure, the characters have a personality of their own, but the character tropes themselves are actually separate, to an extent, making it confirmed regardless.

Sicon112 wrote:

WackyMeetsPractical wrote:

Sicon112 wrote:Echo Chamber was to get tropes over here, meaning it's possible. Now that the wall has broken and characters are over here, their tropes and story conventions are here as well. This was mentioned during bits of the AMA, and when we were told to create a guardian story, Gurt showed up to specifically TELL me that the characters dragged parts of their world over with them.

The whole Medusa thing has created a lot of Plot Holes for me. So far, Medusa seems to be the only fictional who's attempted to break through the wall, instead of being pulled through without any idea what happened. So I'm still questioning how canonical the whole event was. As for Gurt's "confirmation" there are several ways to interpret that. Physical things like setting and props may leak through, but can situations? And he could very well mean character tropes, the traits that are innate in the characters themselves that often lead to certain plots happening, which is the very basis of my whole argument.

At this point, I'm not discounting the Scenario theory, but I'm not convinced that it has been confirmed.

No, that's pretty solid confirmation. He made it clear that bits of the SETTING were leaking through. That means other tropes than just character tropes. And even so, Character tropes are still story conventions. Sure, the characters have a personality of their own, but the character tropes themselves are actually separate, to an extent, making it confirmed regardless.

It's solid for you. Not for me. Let's leave it at that.

He's got pixie dust. It's been confirmed. https://twitter.com/YouHaveFailedUs/sta ... 1832754176

That would suggest an ability to fly. He probably only has so much, which is why he doesn't always use it.

Joe just uploaded a video from Peter Pan. He can't fly, the police are chasing him and he's made a facebook page.

NeverSlender wrote:Joe just uploaded a video from Peter Pan. He can't fly, the police are chasing him and he's made a facebook page.

Yeah, shortly after I posted, Mr. A posted this: https://twitter.com/YouHaveFailedUs/sta ... 7237386240

Adell wrote:WMG: He could have aged from not being in neverland anymore.

Called it that he was aging.

Adell wrote:Called it that he was aging.

Wait. Isn't the original Peter Pan a trickster spirit?

Pan sent the video directly to Joe. He has watchthefootage.com linked from his facebook page. That means he knows all about us and what we're doing, and he wants our help.

Moved this to the newly created awesomesauce Peter Pan subforum.

Wait wait wait. The teacher said Pan was on trial didn't he?

The teacher is also...ahem.

Cray-cray.

Okay did anyone else hear Peter mention the guys in blue suits who were chasing him? I hope thats not a new character group. i have enough trouble keeping up as it is