'Splaining Away Mr. A

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Re: 'Splaining Away Mr. A

Postby Rick Healey on Wed Jan 02, 2013 12:58 am

Well, I suppose that I would deliberately try to obfuscate the issue by making vague suggestions that confirm or deny nothing.

I'd also deliberately make a vague denial about a wrong supposition without offering a solid answer in order to heighten future interest.

Finally, I'd also take the time to make a point vague without even having a solid answer, in case I or any other puppet master wanted to define it differently later.
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Re: 'Splaining Away Mr. A

Postby Adell on Wed Jan 02, 2013 1:02 am

Rick Healey wrote:Well, I suppose that I would deliberately try to obfuscate the issue by making vague suggestions that confirm or deny nothing.

I'd also deliberately make a vague denial about a wrong supposition without offering a solid answer in order to heighten future interest.

Finally, I'd also take the time to make a point vague without even having a solid answer, in case I or any other puppet master wanted to define it differently later.


Oh I get it, so you're being a troll :)
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Re: 'Splaining Away Mr. A

Postby Blurred_9L on Wed Jan 02, 2013 1:23 am

Rick Healey wrote:Well, I suppose that I would deliberately try to obfuscate the issue by making vague suggestions that confirm or deny nothing.

I'd also deliberately make a vague denial about a wrong supposition without offering a solid answer in order to heighten future interest.

Finally, I'd also take the time to make a point vague without even having a solid answer, in case I or any other puppet master wanted to define it differently later.


Well, too bad. Just like I tweeted to the cat after that video, I will think of Mr. A as some kind of Pikachu mutation, or something. :twisted:
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Re: 'Splaining Away Mr. A

Postby S_o_S on Wed Jan 02, 2013 7:57 am

Flitterbie wrote:
Qara-Xuan Zenith wrote:Translation: he just said it to troll us. I'M ONTO YOU.


Unless it really wasn't lightning, and he said it KNOWING WE WOULD THINK HE WAS TROLLING.

This is getting silly now. I'm on to you though Rick, seriously.
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Re: 'Splaining Away Mr. A

Postby Flitterbie on Wed Jan 02, 2013 12:47 pm

Blurred_9L wrote:
Rick Healey wrote:Well, I suppose that I would deliberately try to obfuscate the issue by making vague suggestions that confirm or deny nothing.

I'd also deliberately make a vague denial about a wrong supposition without offering a solid answer in order to heighten future interest.

Finally, I'd also take the time to make a point vague without even having a solid answer, in case I or any other puppet master wanted to define it differently later.


Well, too bad. Just like I tweeted to the cat after that video, I will think of Mr. A as some kind of Pikachu mutation, or something. :twisted:


He's way too humanlike to be a Pikachu.

Obviously, he's some kind of Electabuzz.
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Re: 'Splaining Away Mr. A

Postby Genndy Oda C.O.G. on Wed Jan 02, 2013 1:00 pm

Flitterbie wrote:
Blurred_9L wrote:
Rick Healey wrote:Well, I suppose that I would deliberately try to obfuscate the issue by making vague suggestions that confirm or deny nothing.

I'd also deliberately make a vague denial about a wrong supposition without offering a solid answer in order to heighten future interest.

Finally, I'd also take the time to make a point vague without even having a solid answer, in case I or any other puppet master wanted to define it differently later.


Well, too bad. Just like I tweeted to the cat after that video, I will think of Mr. A as some kind of Pikachu mutation, or something. :twisted:


He's way too humanlike to be a Pikachu.

Obviously, he's some kind of Electabuzz.
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Re: 'Splaining Away Mr. A

Postby BlackWolfe on Wed Jan 02, 2013 1:01 pm

Genndy Oda C.O.G. wrote:
Flitterbie wrote:He's way too humanlike to be a Pikachu.

Obviously, he's some kind of Electabuzz.
Perhaps he's an alternate evolution of Electabuzz: Ampministrator. An Electabuzz must reach level 48 or higher in the White Void to evolve into an Ampministrator.


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Re: 'Splaining Away Mr. A

Postby Dryunya on Wed Jan 02, 2013 3:37 pm

Didn't Mr. A say those were his tears?

Ok, except that he could lie.
But statistically, so far he only outright lied once, about the premise. So I'm assuming he didn't this time, too.

And to keep your imagination boiling, the Void physics are probably different. Who knows what it could be. =P
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Re: 'Splaining Away Mr. A

Postby Adell on Wed Jan 02, 2013 3:39 pm

Dryunya wrote:Didn't Mr. A say those were his tears?

Ok, except that he could lie.
But statistically, so far he only outright lied once, about the premise. So I'm assuming he didn't this time, too.

And to keep your imagination boiling, the Void physics are probably different. Who knows what it could be. =P


Well unless you count omitting and obscuring information from us as a lie. In which case, he lied a lot. ;)
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Re: 'Splaining Away Mr. A

Postby Tom on Wed Jan 02, 2013 5:10 pm

Perhaps, to some extent, the Void and Mr. A are the same thing, and it manifests his emotions.

Perhaps...

You'd have to ask him.

(Hint: you already did)
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Re: 'Splaining Away Mr. A

Postby Rick Healey on Wed Jan 02, 2013 5:34 pm

Hm... that would mean Mr. A literally sprung forth ex nihilo. The implications of this are staggering.

Also, because I decided to do research on the topic of lightning, simply because it was a bit too unfair to simply tease folks like I did...

Lightning (and, for that matter, all variety of electrical arcs) are the results of massive amounts of electron imbalance being corrected very suddenly and forcefully. This actually manifests as a brief moment of plasma discharge, which is the visible portion of the electrical arc.

In order for Mr. A to thus give off electricity like that, this means that he'd need the ability to consciously regulate electron balance within his own body continuously, which would indicate a massive amount of power all on its own.

This becomes worrisome, however, when you figure out a few more things. The visible spectrum portion of such a discharge has a specific appearance based on the atmosphere in which the discharge happens. We know, based on Zach Wallnau's appearance in the void (EC, season 1), that the atmosphere must be at least close to ours, or else Zach wouldn't be able to survive in the Void. Even accounting for the monochromatic appearance of the Void, the discharges did not match visually with recordings of such discharges in our own atmosphere.

Thus, it is reasonable to believe that the discharges seen in the video of Mr. A's anger are not electrical in nature, but may instead be the manifestation of some other variety of energy emanation. Thus, why I said that we should be so lucky as to have that be electricity - it's quite possible that Mr. A literally is a type of energy that we have yet to encounter.

I suppose the quickest way to figure this out would be to detect the aftereffects of the discharge itself. If it truly was electricity, that much discharge for that amount of time would definitely leave an amount of ozone detectable to the human nose (as high amounts of electric current result in the formation of two ozone molecules from three oxygen molecules, with the quantity made dependent on the amount of electricity as well as the time elapsed). So all we need to do is get close enough to smell Mr. A after he gets angry, and we can tell by that if he was discharging electricity.

Good luck with that.
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Re: 'Splaining Away Mr. A

Postby Scarab on Wed Jan 02, 2013 7:24 pm

Rick Healey wrote:I suppose the quickest way to figure this out would be to detect the aftereffects of the discharge itself. If it truly was electricity, that much discharge for that amount of time would definitely leave an amount of ozone detectable to the human nose (as high amounts of electric current result in the formation of two ozone molecules from three oxygen molecules, with the quantity made dependent on the amount of electricity as well as the time elapsed). So all we need to do is get close enough to smell Mr. A after he gets angry, and we can tell by that if he was discharging electricity.

Good luck with that.


Okay, I have a plan in place for this. Eli needs to distract him with continued random comments and references to his leadership ability, while Sicon and Mimsy lay the bear traps and get everyone hawiian shirts. Then while Mister A is confused and annoyed by the lot of us apparrantly joinng Radio White Void or whoever they are this week, one of us sneaks up on him, sniffs him, and reports their findings.

...Still haven't worked out the getting into the void part of that puzzle, but it's a work in progress.
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Re: 'Splaining Away Mr. A

Postby Qara-Xuan Zenith on Wed Jan 02, 2013 7:30 pm

Why don't we just ask Zack, as the only human known to have entered the void, "Hey, Zack, can you please go back to that weird place and sniff your ex-boss for us? FOR SCIENCE."
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Re: 'Splaining Away Mr. A

Postby Scarab on Wed Jan 02, 2013 7:38 pm

Qara-Xuan Zenith wrote:Why don't we just ask Zack, as the only human known to have entered the void, "Hey, Zack, can you please go back to that weird place and sniff your ex-boss for us? FOR SCIENCE."


Sounds like a plan, you get the hawiian shirts, then, I'll get on the line to the void rebels...
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Re: 'Splaining Away Mr. A

Postby Flitterbie on Wed Jan 02, 2013 8:53 pm

Scarab wrote:
Rick Healey wrote:I suppose the quickest way to figure this out would be to detect the aftereffects of the discharge itself. If it truly was electricity, that much discharge for that amount of time would definitely leave an amount of ozone detectable to the human nose (as high amounts of electric current result in the formation of two ozone molecules from three oxygen molecules, with the quantity made dependent on the amount of electricity as well as the time elapsed). So all we need to do is get close enough to smell Mr. A after he gets angry, and we can tell by that if he was discharging electricity.

Good luck with that.


Okay, I have a plan in place for this. Eli needs to distract him with continued random comments and references to his leadership ability, while Sicon and Mimsy lay the bear traps and get everyone hawiian shirts. Then while Mister A is confused and annoyed by the lot of us apparrantly joinng Radio White Void or whoever they are this week, one of us sneaks up on him, sniffs him, and reports their findings.

...Still haven't worked out the getting into the void part of that puzzle, but it's a work in progress.


You haven't mentioned the part of the plan where we have to explain to Mr. A that we were trying to smell him, and I quote, "for science."
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Re: 'Splaining Away Mr. A

Postby narrativedilettante on Wed Jan 02, 2013 8:57 pm

Guys, guys. We're overcomplicating this. Mr. Administrator broke the wall for science. He OWES us. All we have to do is tell him that, as a form of repayment, we've determined he needs to let one of us smell him. For science.
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Re: 'Splaining Away Mr. A

Postby Flitterbie on Wed Jan 02, 2013 9:07 pm

narrativedilettante wrote:Guys, guys. We're overcomplicating this. Mr. Administrator broke the wall for science. He OWES us. All we have to do is tell him that, as a form of repayment, we've determined he needs to let one of us smell him. For science.


This is assuming Mr. A isn't a hypocrite.
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Re: 'Splaining Away Mr. A

Postby BlackWolfe on Wed Jan 02, 2013 9:19 pm

Flitterbie wrote:
narrativedilettante wrote:Guys, guys. We're overcomplicating this. Mr. Administrator broke the wall for science. He OWES us. All we have to do is tell him that, as a form of repayment, we've determined he needs to let one of us smell him. For science.


This is assuming Mr. A isn't a hypocrite.


Which is a large assumption to make, true.
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Re: 'Splaining Away Mr. A

Postby Dryunya on Wed Jan 02, 2013 9:23 pm

Tom wrote:Perhaps, to some extent, the Void and Mr. A are the same thing, and it manifests his emotions.

Perhaps...

You'd have to ask him.

(Hint: you already did)

Wwwwaaaait a second...

Mr. A is the personification of the void
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The void is the wall (he said so!)
=
Mr. A is the personification of the wall

So, that theory is true? (Even though I didn't like it at all)
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Re: 'Splaining Away Mr. A

Postby Flitterbie on Wed Jan 02, 2013 9:24 pm

Dryunya wrote:
Tom wrote:Perhaps, to some extent, the Void and Mr. A are the same thing, and it manifests his emotions.

Perhaps...

You'd have to ask him.

(Hint: you already did)

Wwwwaaaait a second...

Mr. A is the personification of the void
+
The void is the wall (he said so!)
=
Mr. A is the personification of the wall

So, that theory is true? (Even though I didn't like it at all)


This theory hinges on three words: 'He said so.'
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Re: 'Splaining Away Mr. A

Postby Scarab on Wed Jan 02, 2013 9:27 pm

Flitterbie wrote:The void is the wall (he said so!)
=
Mr. A is the personification of the wall

So, that theory is true? (Even though I didn't like it at all)

This theory hinges on three words: 'He said so.'

Terry Pratchett always said something along the lines of 'people think belief is created by the gods you're beliving in, when it's really the other way around: believing in the gods is what gives them power. Sooo Mister A COULD be the personification of the wall, really, created after the fact. Or possibly an animus of some kind: an incredibly powerful sense of place, something as old as the wall, could very well have such a thing.

...Unless I'm getting this completely wrong.
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Re: 'Splaining Away Mr. A

Postby Pixelmage on Wed Jan 02, 2013 9:34 pm

So... Mr. A = Genius Loci?

If so, that means breaking the Wall causes damage to himself, to some extent at least.
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Re: 'Splaining Away Mr. A

Postby Scarab on Wed Jan 02, 2013 9:41 pm

Pixelmage wrote:So... Mr. A = Genius Loci?

If so, that means breaking the Wall causes damage to himself, to some extent at least.


Huh... good point, yeah I guess he wouldn't want to do that.
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Re: 'Splaining Away Mr. A

Postby RotavatoR on Thu Jan 03, 2013 7:38 am

Pixelmage wrote:So... Mr. A = Genius Loci?

If so, that means breaking the Wall causes damage to himself, to some extent at least.

I remember cAke saying that, if reality collapses, he would be all right. But I'm not sure if I remember correctly.
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Re: 'Splaining Away Mr. A

Postby Pixelmage on Thu Jan 03, 2013 10:02 am

RotavatoR wrote:I remember cAke saying that, if reality collapses, he would be all right. But I'm not sure if I remember correctly.

He dismissed it with: "If reality collapses, our fate is of no concern. You'll not be around to find out."
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