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Re: Fourth wall bleeding into our world.

PostPosted: Sun Oct 07, 2012 2:12 pm
by Pixelmage
Victin wrote:Also add a spoiler warning in
BIG HUGE RED LETTERS
Dryunya wrote:I use the next-to-bottom-right cyan font color, it's almost unseen on the forum's background. A makeshift spoilertag, I'd say.


I'll take the advice:
SPOILERS for Agatha Christie's Poirot Novels.
She seems very fond of unprobable, unlikely, senseless conincidences.
Orient Express ends up being about a revenge and every single passenger in the damn train is a muderer, planner, victim or Poirot himself.
One of the last cases of Poirot's lifetime (don't know the English release name) turns out that the "killer" was the nobody non-witness plain looking guy shown in screen from day 1, that just happened to be in every single city where there was a case and had -no link whatsoever- to any of the victims in the places that Police look for.
The christmas case (don't know the english release name either) turns out that the killer was also caught by chance and the only detail that mattered was the time of death that was cleverly desguised by the killer with a hot air baloon, also identified by the luck of finding "some pink rubber" on the ground.


No spoilers version:
Overall, what's the most destiny bound, far fetched and impossible to happen scenario? Well, that's just what happens on Agatha's Novels in general.

Re: Fourth wall bleeding into our world.

PostPosted: Sun Oct 07, 2012 2:59 pm
by Dryunya
Pixelmage wrote:Overall, what's the most destiny bound, far fetched and impossible to happen scenario? Well, that's just what happens on Agatha's Novels in general.

I imagine a sudden appearence of a meteorite, T-Rex,a hero with improbable dexterity and lots of guns. :mrgreen:

Re: Fourth wall bleeding into our world.

PostPosted: Sun Oct 07, 2012 3:01 pm
by Victin
Dryunya wrote:
Pixelmage wrote:Overall, what's the most destiny bound, far fetched and impossible to happen scenario? Well, that's just what happens on Agatha's Novels in general.

I imagine a sudden appearence of a meteorite, T-Rex,a hero with improbable dexterity and lots of guns. :mrgreen:

I imagine a rain of burning pebbles, T-Rexs from the Toy Story movie, Usopps and UZIs.

Re: Fourth wall bleeding into our world.

PostPosted: Sun Oct 07, 2012 3:13 pm
by Pixelmage
Victin wrote:
Dryunya wrote:
Pixelmage wrote:Overall, what's the most destiny bound, far fetched and impossible to happen scenario? Well, that's just what happens on Agatha's Novels in general.

I imagine a sudden appearence of a meteorite, T-Rex,a hero with improbable dexterity and lots of guns. :mrgreen:

I imagine a rain of burning pebbles, T-Rexs from the Toy Story movie, Usopps and UZIs.


Par for the course. You have to IMAGINE MOAR!!!

Re: Fourth wall bleeding into our world.

PostPosted: Sun Oct 07, 2012 8:10 pm
by The Wild West Pyro
No.

The murderer was YOU ( all of us) all along :)

How about that for Epileptic Trees?

Re: Fourth wall bleeding into our world.

PostPosted: Sun Oct 07, 2012 8:19 pm
by Flitterbie
Dryunya wrote:
Pixelmage wrote:Overall, what's the most destiny bound, far fetched and impossible to happen scenario? Well, that's just what happens on Agatha's Novels in general.

I imagine a sudden appearence of a meteorite, T-Rex,a hero with improbable dexterity and lots of guns. :mrgreen:


No, that'd be Doctor Who.

Re: Fourth wall bleeding into our world.

PostPosted: Sun Oct 07, 2012 8:22 pm
by NeverSlender
Flitterbie wrote:
Dryunya wrote:
Pixelmage wrote:Overall, what's the most destiny bound, far fetched and impossible to happen scenario? Well, that's just what happens on Agatha's Novels in general.

I imagine a sudden appearence of a meteorite, T-Rex,a hero with improbable dexterity and lots of guns. :mrgreen:


No, that'd be Doctor Who.


Already mentioned this but I will be so disappointed if this ARG goes by without a Dr. Who reference.

Re: Fourth wall bleeding into our world.

PostPosted: Sun Oct 07, 2012 8:23 pm
by Flitterbie
NeverSlender wrote:Already mentioned this but I will be so disappointed if this ARG goes by without a Dr. Who reference.


Yeah, given the fact that I saw 'Bad Wolf' written on the sidewalk on campus last week, I'd be concerned.

Re: Fourth wall bleeding into our world.

PostPosted: Sun Oct 07, 2012 8:25 pm
by NeverSlender
Flitterbie wrote:
NeverSlender wrote:Already mentioned this but I will be so disappointed if this ARG goes by without a Dr. Who reference.


Yeah, given the fact that I saw 'Bad Wolf' written on the sidewalk on campus last week, I'd be concerned.


Is it strange that I'm excited by the possibility of Daleks appearing?

Re: Fourth wall bleeding into our world.

PostPosted: Sun Oct 07, 2012 8:26 pm
by Flitterbie
NeverSlender wrote:
Flitterbie wrote:
NeverSlender wrote:Already mentioned this but I will be so disappointed if this ARG goes by without a Dr. Who reference.


Yeah, given the fact that I saw 'Bad Wolf' written on the sidewalk on campus last week, I'd be concerned.


Is it strange that I'm excited by the possibility of Daleks appearing?


You are not Ace, you do not have a baseball bat, you would DIE.

Re: Fourth wall bleeding into our world.

PostPosted: Sun Oct 07, 2012 8:30 pm
by NeverSlender
But I would die with my life complete.

Re: Fourth wall bleeding into our world.

PostPosted: Mon Oct 08, 2012 6:19 am
by Guyshane
NeverSlender wrote:But I would die with my life complete.

No you wouldn't because it would only be the Daleks

Re: Fourth wall bleeding into our world.

PostPosted: Mon Oct 08, 2012 6:35 am
by NeverSlender
Guyshane wrote:
NeverSlender wrote:But I would die with my life complete.

No you wouldn't because it would only be the Daleks


I only asked for a reference to Dr. Who, not the actual Doctor. Although that would be awesome.

Re: Fourth wall bleeding into our world.

PostPosted: Mon Oct 08, 2012 7:13 am
by The Finch
That would be pretty cool.

Re: Fourth wall bleeding into our world.

PostPosted: Mon Oct 08, 2012 4:22 pm
by Scarab
Is it strange that I'm excited by the possibility of Daleks appearing?


Not particularly but still, as Doctor Who fans I'm sure we remember this scene right here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mgZzCrpqT5E

Do you REALLY want that repeated all over the world to REAL people? It was bad enough when it was fictional. :shock:

Back on the topic - the idea of scenarioas bleeding through is more than possible. In fact I wouldn't be surprised if what we're seeing here is just an example of another trope in action, namely the Deconstruction trope. What's a parody artist's favourite way to mess with their series? Place the characters in Reality and see how they would actually fare. Perhaps that's what we're already seeing with the characters who have escaped. Their lives are still defined by fictional laws, but those laws have been influenced by reality. Hence the wicked witch is having to cope without her monkeys, Sherlock HOlmes with the itnernet, and on Quixote and the Cheshire Cat are.. .um... well, they're almost exactly the same as they were, I guess.

Reality itself AND fiction are having to very rapidly adapt to this world in order to survive.

Re: Fourth wall bleeding into our world.

PostPosted: Mon Oct 08, 2012 4:25 pm
by NeverSlender
Scarab wrote:
Is it strange that I'm excited by the possibility of Daleks appearing?


Not particularly but still, as Doctor Who fans I'm sure we remember this scene right here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mgZzCrpqT5E

Do you REALLY want that repeated all over the world to REAL people? It was bad enough when it was fictional. :shock:

Back on the topic - the idea of scenarioas bleeding through is more than possible. In fact I wouldn't be surprised if what we're seeing here is just an example of another trope in action, namely the Deconstruction trope. What's a parody artist's favourite way to mess with their series? Place the characters in Reality and see how they would actually fare. Perhaps that's what we're already seeing with the characters who have escaped. Their lives are still defined by fictional laws, but those laws have been influenced by reality. Hence the wicked witch is having to cope without her monkeys, Sherlock HOlmes with the itnernet, and on Quixote and the Cheshire Cat are.. .um... well, they're almost exactly the same as they were, I guess.

Reality itself AND fiction are having to very rapidly adapt to this world in order to survive.


Well I'd probably crap myself if I heard that but I would give a small "Hell Yeah!" first.

Re: Fourth wall bleeding into our world.

PostPosted: Mon Oct 08, 2012 4:53 pm
by Scarab
Well I'd probably crap myself if I heard that but I would give a small "Hell Yeah!" first.


Fair enough. heck, maybe if it happened we could get an answer to that Big Question they're going on about...

Re: Fourth wall bleeding into our world.

PostPosted: Mon Oct 08, 2012 4:54 pm
by NeverSlender
Scarab wrote:
Well I'd probably crap myself if I heard that but I would give a small "Hell Yeah!" first.


Fair enough. heck, maybe if it happened we could get an answer to that Big Question they're going on about...


Probably need the actual Doctor for that.

Re: Fourth wall bleeding into our world.

PostPosted: Mon Oct 08, 2012 5:01 pm
by Pixelmage
NeverSlender wrote:Probably need the actual Doctor for that.


You know... Reading these posts I can only think to myself... Why didn't I watch Dr. Who?
That EXTERMINATE scene is kind of charming... Makes me want to watch the whole show. :D

Re: Fourth wall bleeding into our world.

PostPosted: Mon Oct 08, 2012 5:02 pm
by NeverSlender
Pixelmage wrote:
NeverSlender wrote:Probably need the actual Doctor for that.


You know... Reading these posts I can only think to myself... Why didn't I watch Dr. Who?
That EXTERMINATE scene is kind of charming... Makes me want to watch the whole show. :D


DO IT

Re: Fourth wall bleeding into our world.

PostPosted: Mon Oct 08, 2012 8:09 pm
by Scarab
Pixelmage wrote:
NeverSlender wrote:
Probably need the actual Doctor for that.


You know... Reading these posts I can only think to myself... Why didn't I watch Dr. Who?
That EXTERMINATE scene is kind of charming... Makes me want to watch the whole show.


DO IT


WHAT HE SAID. :D

Re: Fourth wall bleeding into our world.

PostPosted: Tue Oct 09, 2012 3:03 am
by The Wild West Pyro
Watch Doctor Who, it's awesome AND you'll understand the breaking more.

As well as that, we should ask Holmes how he came here. And how the Witch, and Cheshire, and Don, and Silver came here as well.

We all already know that Poirot had a heatstroke during the events of Death on the Nile.

Re: Fourth wall bleeding into our world.

PostPosted: Tue Oct 09, 2012 9:02 am
by Scarab
Watch Doctor Who, it's awesome AND you'll understand the breaking more.

Indeed the series five and sixc plot threads were INCREDIBLY similar to what we're dealing with right now, and the reason why I think the Doctor Who fans have immediately assumed more bad things can come from the breaking of the wall than good - they've already seen what cracks can do to time and space in general.

As well as that, we should ask Holmes how he came here. And how the Witch, and Cheshire, and Don, and Silver came here as well.

We all already know that Poirot had a heatstroke during the events of Death on the Nile.


I'm guessing the explanation is going to be similar for all of them - they came here in confusion both due to prior events, and possibly due to what they experienced within the wall.

Re: Fourth wall bleeding into our world.

PostPosted: Tue Oct 09, 2012 9:04 am
by NeverSlender
I think Cheshire's will be different. He seems to have crossed of his own will.

Re: Fourth wall bleeding into our world.

PostPosted: Tue Oct 09, 2012 9:07 am
by Scarab
I think Cheshire's will be different. He seems to have crossed of his own will.


Yes, me too, though in Cheshire's case I'm not altogether sure it matters. I reckon he was the first thing to come through. I think he's basically a walking talking form of delusion anyway being the product of a dream... huh... you know that DOES make him a fiction within a fiction: a character from a book, that is also a character within the dream of the little girl who was the protagonist of said book.

I popped into Sherlock Holmes journal and quickly asked him a few questions about how he might've come here, sorry if that's been done before but I wanted to be sure...