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Re: The "sending them back" dilemma

PostPosted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 3:36 pm
by Scarab
NeverSlender wrote:
Dryunya wrote:Have you seen Mr. A's update? Clearly, It's Personal for him. I can just feel it. He's so happy. :shock:


This just makes me trust him less. He seems to be far too haughty about this.

1. If he holds all the pieces of the wall, how did they crack? Did he do it?

2. He may be trolling us, but he crossed his hands again, in a different way to last time. This would mean it is a different instantiation to the last video.


That's exactly what I was thinking (about both point one which I suspect may have been a result of the Echo Chamber experiments somehow, and point two. They said in an earlier video that 'further research was required' on how to repair the wall, but if he LITERALLY holds all the pieces...

Also, the Cabal is going to assume he speaks for all of us there and then any plans we may or may not have had for talking to them go up in smoke. Urgh!

Re: The "sending them back" dilemma

PostPosted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 3:50 pm
by Dryunya
Scarab wrote:They said in an earlier video that 'further research was required' on how to repair the wall, but if he LITERALLY holds all the pieces...

I asked him if he could repair the wall if the characters came back. No reply for half an hour now. He's starting to piss me off.

Re: The "sending them back" dilemma

PostPosted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 3:52 pm
by NeverSlender
Dryunya wrote:
Scarab wrote:They said in an earlier video that 'further research was required' on how to repair the wall, but if he LITERALLY holds all the pieces...

I asked him if he could repair the wall if the characters came back. No reply for half an hour now. He's starting to piss me off.


I've asked him how the wall broke but no answer either. If he just says "WE CANNOT ANSWER THAT" I'm gonna be incredibly pissed off.

Re: The "sending them back" dilemma

PostPosted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 3:54 pm
by Dryunya
I'm starting to think we really need to throw a collective tantrum and refuse to work any further until he starts puking exposition from every orifice. :evil:

Re: The "sending them back" dilemma

PostPosted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 3:55 pm
by Pixelmage
NeverSlender wrote:
Dryunya wrote:
Scarab wrote:They said in an earlier video that 'further research was required' on how to repair the wall, but if he LITERALLY holds all the pieces...

I asked him if he could repair the wall if the characters came back. No reply for half an hour now. He's starting to piss me off.


I've asked him how the wall broke but no answer either. If he just says "WE CANNOT ANSWER THAT" I'm gonna be incredibly pissed off.


That's three of us.
Extrapolating on the meaning of his words there:
"We can close the wall. But will only do so when all fictionals are sent back behind it."

Anyone else get that vibe?

Re: The "sending them back" dilemma

PostPosted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 3:55 pm
by NeverSlender
Dryunya wrote:I'm starting to think we really need to throw a collective tantrum and refuse to work any further until he starts puking exposition from every orifice. :evil:


Not just yet. If I don't have an answer by tomorrow, I'm definitely gonna go ape at him. Feel free to do the same.

Re: The "sending them back" dilemma

PostPosted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 3:57 pm
by Guyshane
Pixelmage wrote:
That's three of us.
Extrapolating on the meaning of his words there:
"We can close the wall. But will only do so when all fictionals are sent back behind it."

Anyone else get that vibe?

Really there is no reason to not tell us how the wall can be sealed. Unless of course we could all do it independently of Mr.A

Re: The "sending them back" dilemma

PostPosted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 3:58 pm
by Mr. Administrator
WE KNOW NOW THAT THE CABAL READS THESE FORUMS. WE HAD LONG SUSPECTED THAT POSTING SO MUCH IN THE PUBLIC EYE WOULD PROVE DANGEROUS, AND THESE ATTACKS HAVE PROVEN OUR SUSPICIONS CORRECT.

WE CANNOT SAY MORE, LEST WE JEOPARDIZE EVERYTHING YOU HAVE WORKED TO ACCOMPLISH.

Re: The "sending them back" dilemma

PostPosted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 3:59 pm
by NeverSlender
Mr. Administrator wrote:WE KNOW NOW THAT THE CABAL READS THESE FORUMS. WE HAD LONG SUSPECTED THAT POSTING SO MUCH IN THE PUBLIC EYE WOULD PROVE DANGEROUS, AND THESE ATTACKS HAVE PROVEN OUR SUSPICIONS CORRECT.

WE CANNOT SAY MORE, LEST WE JEOPARDIZE EVERYTHING YOU HAVE WORKED TO ACCOMPLISH.


I'm gonna keep asking until you answer me.

You said you hold all the pieces of the wall. How did it crack?

Re: The "sending them back" dilemma

PostPosted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 3:59 pm
by Guyshane
Mr. Administrator wrote:WE KNOW NOW THAT THE CABAL READS THESE FORUMS. WE HAD LONG SUSPECTED THAT POSTING SO MUCH IN THE PUBLIC EYE WOULD PROVE DANGEROUS, AND THESE ATTACKS HAVE PROVEN OUR SUSPICIONS CORRECT.

WE CANNOT SAY MORE, LEST WE JEOPARDIZE EVERYTHING YOU HAVE WORKED TO ACCOMPLISH.

Okay but why not send it to us off forum. You do have email addresses for at least some of us

Re: The "sending them back" dilemma

PostPosted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 4:04 pm
by Chief Wakamakamu
Pixelmage wrote:That's three of us.
Extrapolating on the meaning of his words there:
"We can close the wall. But will only do so when all fictionals are sent back behind it."

Anyone else get that vibe?


You know what, I think you are onto something. If their presence here is causing further destabilization, as he said in another thread, that makes a lot of sense. He's waiting until they are all across.

Re: The "sending them back" dilemma

PostPosted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 4:05 pm
by Pixelmage
Mr. Administrator wrote:WE KNOW NOW THAT THE CABAL READS THESE FORUMS. WE HAD LONG SUSPECTED THAT POSTING SO MUCH IN THE PUBLIC EYE WOULD PROVE DANGEROUS, AND THESE ATTACKS HAVE PROVEN OUR SUSPICIONS CORRECT.

WE CANNOT SAY MORE, LEST WE JEOPARDIZE EVERYTHING YOU HAVE WORKED TO ACCOMPLISH.


Then why not stablish our own secure channel? You want this to be public JUST BECAUSE it allows for this one excuse. Send PMs. Send emails. Not too hard to keep the info secure. You should really ask Sicon for some hints on how to be a mastermind without putting the plan at risk.

Publicity is no excuse to make us work without intel.

Re: The "sending them back" dilemma

PostPosted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 4:06 pm
by NeverSlender
If he posts again without answering my question, I'm just gonna go at him.

Re: The "sending them back" dilemma

PostPosted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 4:10 pm
by Pixelmage
GOT ONE!
https://twitter.com/YouHaveFailedUs/sta ... 1292171265

Basically, he does not know whether sealing the wall with them here could create problems or not. And since the stability can (presumably) only be measured after the wall is sealed, he does not want to risk it.

Re: The "sending them back" dilemma

PostPosted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 4:11 pm
by Chief Wakamakamu
NeverSlender wrote:If he posts again without answering my question, I'm just gonna go at him.


Dude, he said in one of the earlier videos that he didn't know how the wall broke.

Re: The "sending them back" dilemma

PostPosted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 4:11 pm
by Guyshane
Pixelmage wrote:GOT ONE!
https://twitter.com/YouHaveFailedUs/sta ... 1292171265

Basically, he does not know whether sealing the wall with them here could create problems or not. And since the stability can (presumably) only be measured after the wall is sealed, he does not want to risk it.

Okay thats understandable at least

Re: The "sending them back" dilemma

PostPosted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 4:12 pm
by NeverSlender
Chief Wakamakamu wrote:
NeverSlender wrote:If he posts again without answering my question, I'm just gonna go at him.


Dude, he said in one of the earlier videos that he didn't know how the wall broke.


And in his latest video he says he holds all the pieces of the wall, so he must know.

Re: The "sending them back" dilemma

PostPosted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 4:14 pm
by NeverSlender
Also his words were, if I remember correctly, "WE CANNOT ANSWER THAT". That doesn't mean he doesn't know. It's possible something was stopping him. Another instantiation maybe.

Re: The "sending them back" dilemma

PostPosted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 4:15 pm
by Chief Wakamakamu
NeverSlender wrote:
Chief Wakamakamu wrote:
NeverSlender wrote:If he posts again without answering my question, I'm just gonna go at him.


Dude, he said in one of the earlier videos that he didn't know how the wall broke.


And in his latest video he says he holds all the pieces of the wall, so he must know.


...orrr, residing in the void, he could have collected the pieces after he discovered the break.

Re: The "sending them back" dilemma

PostPosted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 4:16 pm
by Dryunya
Ninja'd on the Exact Words.
I say he is gaining something from the situation's resolution. He wouldn't be that happy otherwise.

Re: The "sending them back" dilemma

PostPosted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 4:16 pm
by NeverSlender
That's a pretty big or. Also, see my second post.

Re: The "sending them back" dilemma

PostPosted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 4:19 pm
by NeverSlender
Dryunya wrote:Ninja'd on the Exact Words.
I say he is gaining something from the situation's resolution. He wouldn't be that happy otherwise.


He's definitely hiding something.

Re: The "sending them back" dilemma

PostPosted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 4:21 pm
by Chief Wakamakamu
NeverSlender wrote:
Dryunya wrote:Ninja'd on the Exact Words.
I say he is gaining something from the situation's resolution. He wouldn't be that happy otherwise.


He's definitely hiding something.


He's Mr. Administrator. He can be manic sometimes.

That said, I'm sure he's hiding something. I just don't think this is it.

Re: The "sending them back" dilemma

PostPosted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 4:22 pm
by NeverSlender
Chief Wakamakamu wrote:
NeverSlender wrote:
Dryunya wrote:Ninja'd on the Exact Words.
I say he is gaining something from the situation's resolution. He wouldn't be that happy otherwise.


He's definitely hiding something.


He's Mr. Administrator. He can be manic sometimes.

That said, I'm sure he's hiding something. I just don't think this is it.


It's something he's unwilling to tell us. I think he knows more about it than he has said.

Re: The "sending them back" dilemma

PostPosted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 4:24 pm
by Pixelmage
Chief Wakamakamu wrote:He's Mr. Administrator. He can be manic sometimes.

That said, I'm sure he's hiding something. I just don't think this is it.


Can't we just overthrow him and do things our way? :ugeek:
I mean, we're at a crossroad I talked about when I joined, what if we joined with the Cabal to flat out just LET the fictionals stay?
Not advocating to it, just throwing the option in the open to see what you guys think. But faction division seems as something that could happen at some point.