The "sending them back" dilemma

[The Wild West Pyro]

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In light of these chat logs, people have begun to take pity on the Cabal.

I will tell all of you now this now: I cannot condone the sacrifice of a world, or even the RISK of making that sacrifice, for the sake of a few people, fictional or otherwise, good or bad. If the universe depends on in, I WILL send them back, even if I am the only one there to write. After all, if the world dies, not even THEY get a happy ending.

You have to understand, at the moment, we are not sure that the fictionals are degrading reality enough that they would destroy it with their presence should the wall be shut. We DO know, however, that they are having an effect, and for the moment all the evidence appears to point toward their presence being dangerous. If that is confirmed, we obviously cannot allow them to stay. However, what seems less clear to some people is the implications of the other two options. I've said it before, and I will say it again. This is a case of guilty until proven innocent. Should neither be one hundred percent confirmed, then allowing anyone to remain is to risk the entire world. I shall not make a gamble of that size, even if the odds were stacked in it's favor instead of against it.

In other words, I shall remove the fictionals from this world unless I see proof that this world may survive their presence. To do otherwise is not something I could choose.

However, I am willing to take every action within my power to give them a happy ending somewhere in fiction, even should sending them away be needed. To this end, I suggest getting Mr. A to continue his research, and brainstorming about how we can resolve these issues that recent news has given us, assuming they must each return to their own world.

For instance, crossovers have been demonstrated to be a viable option between fictions. Perhaps we write a story for Moriarty that ends with him discovering some kind of gate, and one for Morgana with the same. Then we imply that they lead to one another, creating both a crossover and leaving the rest up to them.

Yes.. I do feel sorry for them now.

Unhappy with their roles. Doomed forever to do something-

Moriarty doomed forever to plunge over a waterfall into his death.

Don Juan doomed forever to go into hell, although he deserved it anyway.

Erik, or the Phantom of the Opera, doomed forever to see all his efforts come to nothing, while he dies alone, and feels the pain of seeing his beloved student go off with his rival.

Morgana.. I do not know.

But this is sad- I now think of them as simply trying to get somewhere happy to stay. Don Juan can marry and settle down. Erik can now become famous. And Morgana and Moriarty happily getting married.

I hope we can stop them from sending- well- whatever made a man lose his sanity forever in the Mountains of Madness, or Cthulhu and try to work out something with them. They're really scared of us, though...

[Qara-Xuan Zenith]

Wild West, don't forget that they are all known in their original works as Manipulative Bastards.
I won't discount everything they say, and I can certainly sympathize with their feelings, but-- take it all with a good dosage of salt.

Who can say how much of that they planted just to play on our emotions?

And don't forget-- they are NOT forever doomed to those endings.
As per Mr A's refictionalization instructions, we will GIVE them new stories, new endings-- or lacks thereof. And they have to be mutually satisfying, or they won't be elevated to canon.

They have nothing to fear for us; what we do will be ultimately to their benefit.
We have everything to fear from them; their actions, as well as their very presence, jeopardizes our entire world.

[The Wild West Pyro]

Wild West, don't forget that they are all known in their original works as Manipulative Bastards.
I won't discount everything they say, and I can certainly sympathize with their feelings, but-- take it all with a good dosage of salt.

Who can say how much of that they planted just to play on our emotions?

And don't forget-- they are NOT forever doomed to those endings.
As per Mr A's refictionalization instructions, we will GIVE them new stories, new endings-- or lacks thereof. And they have to be mutually satisfying, or they won't be elevated to canon.

They have nothing to fear for us; what we do will be ultimately to their benefit.
We have everything to fear from them; their actions, as well as their very presence, jeopardizes our entire world.

Let's hope they'll soften and stop being Manipulative Bastards, as they only managed to coerce Adam.

[Sicon112]

Yes.. I do feel sorry for them now.

Unhappy with their roles. Doomed forever to do something-

Moriarty doomed forever to plunge over a waterfall into his death.

Don Juan doomed forever to go into hell, although he deserved it anyway.

Erik, or the Phantom of the Opera, doomed forever to see all his efforts come to nothing, while he dies alone, and feels the pain of seeing his beloved student go off with his rival.

Morgana.. I do not know.

But this is sad- I now think of them as simply trying to get somewhere happy to stay. Don Juan can marry and settle down. Erik can now become famous. And Morgana and Moriarty happily getting married.

I hope we can stop them from sending- well- whatever made a man lose his sanity forever in the Mountains of Madness, or Cthulhu and try to work out something with them. They're really scared of us, though...

Pyro, they choose the paths that lead to those ends themselves. While it is sad, they made their own choices through their characters. People in a book are not actors in a play. The idea of character is so important for a reason. The "Character", the personality of each person in a story, is what drives the book. Sure, the plot happens as the author wills, but each person is made just like the plot is made, to fit together. You cannot have a plot without characterization, and there can be no characterization if nothing happens.

[The Wild West Pyro]

Yes.. I do feel sorry for them now.

Unhappy with their roles. Doomed forever to do something-

Moriarty doomed forever to plunge over a waterfall into his death.

Don Juan doomed forever to go into hell, although he deserved it anyway.

Erik, or the Phantom of the Opera, doomed forever to see all his efforts come to nothing, while he dies alone, and feels the pain of seeing his beloved student go off with his rival.

Morgana.. I do not know.

But this is sad- I now think of them as simply trying to get somewhere happy to stay. Don Juan can marry and settle down. Erik can now become famous. And Morgana and Moriarty happily getting married.

I hope we can stop them from sending- well- whatever made a man lose his sanity forever in the Mountains of Madness, or Cthulhu and try to work out something with them. They're really scared of us, though...

Pyro, they choose the paths that lead to those ends themselves. While it is sad, they made their own choices through their characters. People in a book are not actors in a play. The idea of character is so important for a reason. The "Character", the personality of each person in a story, is what drives the book. Sure, the plot happens as the author wills, but each person is made just like the plot is made, to fit together. You cannot have a plot without characterization, and there can be no characterization if nothing happens.

Oh. I see...