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Re: What Characters Can Get Through?

PostPosted: Mon Oct 15, 2012 6:24 pm
by Scarab
HarDHarKoopa wrote:Oh, whoops I forgot about the day thing. Odd considering I'm temporarily Pinkie Pie. Also, sorry Ms. Scarab! I think I read that about you yesterday, but I learned about all of this stuff yesterday. I will try to remember in the future. Cross my heart, hope to fly, stick a cupcake in my eye.

Also, I'm going to try and compile data on when each character comes from. Maybe find a pattern.


It's cool, Scarab is kind of a generic name when it comes to genders.

I already tried listing them according to when they first appeared in writing/public view, it didn't appear to yeild any results :( But perhaps there's a pattern to WHERE they're showing up...

Re: What Characters Can Get Through?

PostPosted: Mon Oct 15, 2012 6:26 pm
by NeverSlender
Scarab wrote:
HarDHarKoopa wrote:Oh, whoops I forgot about the day thing. Odd considering I'm temporarily Pinkie Pie. Also, sorry Ms. Scarab! I think I read that about you yesterday, but I learned about all of this stuff yesterday. I will try to remember in the future. Cross my heart, hope to fly, stick a cupcake in my eye.

Also, I'm going to try and compile data on when each character comes from. Maybe find a pattern.


It's cool, Scarab is kind of a generic name when it comes to genders.

I already tried listing them according to when they first appeared in writing/public view, it didn't appear to yeild any results :( But perhaps there's a pattern to WHERE they're showing up...


Well the witch was in Kansas and Holmes in London. Both are connected to their stories.

Re: What Characters Can Get Through?

PostPosted: Mon Oct 15, 2012 6:32 pm
by Pixelmage
HarDHarKoopa wrote:Also, I'm going to try and compile data on when each character comes from. Maybe find a pattern.


Ho.. that's interesting. Gulliver and The Lovers were found because of that, also Dryu posted Tara's blog (and two others) because of the methods we used... So it's an awesome way to work. But I don't know if you'll find it in the archive so I'll say it here again:

Master Rule: You can post the patterns here for discussion. But if you find anything by extrapolating the pattern (such as a new character's blog), do not drop the results here. Forward them to Joe or Ed and let them decide when/if it's supposed to be published.

Re: What Characters Can Get Through?

PostPosted: Mon Oct 15, 2012 6:32 pm
by HarDHarKoopa
So, does that mean if we fail and Medusa gets through, she'll arrive in Modern Greece? If so, ha.

Re: What Characters Can Get Through?

PostPosted: Mon Oct 15, 2012 6:35 pm
by NeverSlender
HarDHarKoopa wrote:So, does that mean if we fail and Medusa gets through, she'll arrive in Modern Greece? If so, ha.


I don't think so. Quixote's spanish and ended up in Seattle, Bromeo and Juliet are from Verona but are at an American uni.

Re: What Characters Can Get Through?

PostPosted: Mon Oct 15, 2012 6:41 pm
by HarDHarKoopa
Good point. Hmm...Time to put my thinking cap on!

...

I got nothing.

Re: What Characters Can Get Through?

PostPosted: Mon Oct 15, 2012 6:58 pm
by AceOfSpades
NeverSlender wrote:
HarDHarKoopa wrote:So, does that mean if we fail and Medusa gets through, she'll arrive in Modern Greece? If so, ha.


I don't think so. Quixote's spanish and ended up in Seattle, Bromeo and Juliet are from Verona but are at an American uni.

Cinderella is a French fairy tale but she ended up in New York.

EDIT: Neapolitan my mistake.

Re: What Characters Can Get Through?

PostPosted: Mon Oct 15, 2012 7:01 pm
by Pixelmage
AceOfSpades wrote:
NeverSlender wrote:
HarDHarKoopa wrote:So, does that mean if we fail and Medusa gets through, she'll arrive in Modern Greece? If so, ha.


I don't think so. Quixote's spanish and ended up in Seattle, Bromeo and Juliet are from Verona but are at an American uni.

Cinderella is a French fairy tale but she ended up in New York.


Location, by itself, does not seem to be a factor. But, perhaps there's still a pattern. We need a full model to actually start the analysis... But you guys realize that doing this might point out to more characters, right?

Re: What Characters Can Get Through?

PostPosted: Mon Oct 15, 2012 7:04 pm
by AceOfSpades
I suggest someone should get a map of the states and mark every place in which the previous characters arrived. Maybe triangulate the areas together.

Re: What Characters Can Get Through?

PostPosted: Mon Oct 15, 2012 7:12 pm
by Scarab
AceOfSpades wrote:I suggest someone should get a map of the states and mark every place in which the previous characters arrived. Maybe triangulate the areas together.


Sounds like a good plan, we should try and run up a list of all the places we know they've appeared first, to make it easier. We've got the Wicked Witch in Kansas, Sherlock Holmes in London... were R&J in San Fransisco? I don't recall...

Re: What Characters Can Get Through?

PostPosted: Mon Oct 15, 2012 7:13 pm
by The Finch
Scarab wrote:
AceOfSpades wrote:I suggest someone should get a map of the states and mark every place in which the previous characters arrived. Maybe triangulate the areas together.


Sounds like a good plan, we should try and run up a list of all the places we know they've appeared first, to make it easier. We've got the Wicked Witch in Kansas, Sherlock Holmes in London... were R&J in San Fransisco? I don't recall...


Check to see if there is any place called Verona or Mantua in San Fransico.

We need to make sure where these lovebirds are.

Re: What Characters Can Get Through?

PostPosted: Mon Oct 15, 2012 7:15 pm
by AceOfSpades
The Finch wrote:
Scarab wrote:
AceOfSpades wrote:I suggest someone should get a map of the states and mark every place in which the previous characters arrived. Maybe triangulate the areas together.


Sounds like a good plan, we should try and run up a list of all the places we know they've appeared first, to make it easier. We've got the Wicked Witch in Kansas, Sherlock Holmes in London... were R&J in San Fransisco? I don't recall...


Check to see if there is any place called Verona or Mantua in San Fransico.

We need to make sure where these lovebirds are.


Venice is in California as well. They might mistake it for Italy's Venice.

Re: What Characters Can Get Through?

PostPosted: Mon Oct 15, 2012 7:22 pm
by Scarab
AceOfSpades wrote:Venice is in California as well. They might mistake it for Italy's Venice.


Time for a new topic, do you think? Somewhere to list where everyone is, and investigate where we're not certain?

Re: What Characters Can Get Through?

PostPosted: Mon Oct 15, 2012 7:28 pm
by HarDHarKoopa
I JUST THOUGHT OF SOMETHING!

What if the reason all the characters so far originate in works based on the written word or oral traditions is because there is no definitive appearance for them. The problem of, say, Buffy coming through is she'd look just like Sarah Michelle Geller. But with literary characters, there is no definitive appearance. Thoughts?

Re: What Characters Can Get Through?

PostPosted: Mon Oct 15, 2012 7:32 pm
by Victin
HarDHarKoopa wrote:I JUST THOUGHT OF SOMETHING!

What if the reason all the characters so far originate in works based on the written word or oral traditions is because there is no definitive appearance for them. The problem of, say, Buffy coming through is she'd look just like Sarah Michelle Geller. But with literary characters, there is no definitive appearance. Thoughts?

Meta-wise ot not?

Re: What Characters Can Get Through?

PostPosted: Mon Oct 15, 2012 7:33 pm
by AceOfSpades
HarDHarKoopa could be right. Unless there was some sort of artist conception in say the cover of the book or something like that. Many of the characters have no appearance except what was described in text. But anyone could have interpretations of said description.

Re: What Characters Can Get Through?

PostPosted: Mon Oct 15, 2012 7:35 pm
by HarDHarKoopa
Ace 'o Spades you read my mind! See, what I'm not talking meta-wise. I'm saying that maybe TV and Film characters can't get through because there's someone in this reality who is identical to them, practically is them. Therefore only oral traditions, written works, and maybe comic books can be used. Wait for Mr. A to shoot it down in 10 seconds flat.

Re: What Characters Can Get Through?

PostPosted: Mon Oct 15, 2012 7:38 pm
by Pixelmage
HarDHarKoopa wrote:Ace 'o Spades you read my mind! See, what I'm not talking meta-wise. I'm saying that maybe TV and Film characters can't get through because there's someone in this reality who is identical to them, practically is them. Therefore only oral traditions, written works, and maybe comic books can be used. Wait for Mr. A to shoot it down in 10 seconds flat.


Actually, It makes sense Meta-wise.
Non-meta too. But needs a model... Possible. Very much possible.

Re: What Characters Can Get Through?

PostPosted: Mon Oct 15, 2012 7:40 pm
by HarDHarKoopa
Wait, is meta in universe or out of universe? I am confused. I meant for this theory to be in ARG, not a production reason. My head...

Re: What Characters Can Get Through?

PostPosted: Mon Oct 15, 2012 7:40 pm
by RotavatoR
HarDHarKoopa wrote:Ace 'o Spades you read my mind! See, what I'm not talking meta-wise. I'm saying that maybe TV and Film characters can't get through because there's someone in this reality who is identical to them, practically is them. Therefore only oral traditions, written works, and maybe comic books can be used. Wait for Mr. A to shoot it down in 10 seconds flat.

What about characters from a play? The Sweeney Todd most people know about originated in a play...

Re: What Characters Can Get Through?

PostPosted: Mon Oct 15, 2012 7:40 pm
by IslaKariese
HarDHarKoopa wrote:Wait, is meta in universe or out of universe? I am confused. I meant for this theory to be in ARG, not a production reason. My head...

You'll get used to it, HarD.

Re: What Characters Can Get Through?

PostPosted: Mon Oct 15, 2012 7:46 pm
by TheJester
I Would Love To See...
Creed (Black Cat)
Headless Horseman
Red Skull
Rudolph Sturmgeist (MOH: Frontline)
Heinrich Amsel (COD: WAW)
Voldemort
Just A Few At Least...

Re: What Characters Can Get Through?

PostPosted: Mon Oct 15, 2012 7:47 pm
by Pixelmage
HarDHarKoopa wrote:Wait, is meta in universe or out of universe? I am confused. I meant for this theory to be in ARG, not a production reason. My head...


The characters from fiction are popping in our world and breaking the fouth wall. (Non-meta. In game talk)

The guys from echo chamber are running this arg and using only public domain characters because there's no need to get autorization from the authors and editors (Meta game, rules that are above the mechanics of how things happen here).

You'll get used to it after some time.

Re: What Characters Can Get Through?

PostPosted: Mon Oct 15, 2012 7:48 pm
by HarDHarKoopa
Plays count as written word, because Sweeney, Romeo, and Juliet got through. They fit the theory because many, many people have played them and really none of them are the 'original'.

Re: What Characters Can Get Through?

PostPosted: Mon Oct 15, 2012 7:51 pm
by Scarab
HarDHarKoopa wrote:Plays count as written word, because Sweeney, Romeo, and Juliet got through. They fit the theory because many, many people have played them and really none of them are the 'original'.


Yeah, don't they say a number of Shakespeares works are lost besides just that big one they know about? I mean they were basically the soap opera of the day, albiet... well, better. Designed to be seen over the course of several shows, and often ad libbed by players.