Theory: Mr A is incapable of creating things such as stories and characters for a very specific reason. According to my theory, all beings can be defined in relation to the fourth wall. We, for instance, as in the actual people behind the computers, can be defined as completely in reality. Characters like Amuro Ray or the Cat can be defined as fully fictional, regardless of where they currently are. Mr. A is neither of these things. He exists at a third point: the great white void. He lacks the ability to create fiction that those on this side of the wall posses, and cannot be effected by fiction created by those on this side, like other fictional characters can. This can even be extended to the recursive view of the fourth wall from Echo Chamber involving shows within shows. Every one of the infinite permutations of reality and fiction seems to have it's own fourth wall. Those to the 'reality' side of that wall, can create fiction that appear on the 'fictional' side of the wall. As long as you are on the reality side, you can effect fictional sides infinite levels below you (Theoretically), just as authors of a show can control the Show Within A Show inside of it.
EDIT: Also I don't think Joe is a god of some kind. Actually, I think it's the opposite. Mr. A chose him because he is average, not despite it. After all, average people are really the easiest to manipulate. Too smart, and they have an annoying tendency of catching wind of your plans, too dumb and, in the words of a certain pirate, "You can never tell when they are about to do something incredibly... stupid."
Actually, the point of my theory was that Mr. A is a completely separate type of being precisely because he doesn't seem to have a fictional layer to control. He appears to exist solely in the void, which occurs at every point where there is a wall between reality and fiction, likely all at the same time. The Void is unique in that it appears to be completely free of the ideas of Fiction and Reality. For instance, if someone created a story about the void/set in the void, it would not actually affect he void, but generate an inferior copy of the void on the fictional side of the fourth wall. Get it?
Dryunya wrote:UPD: Summoning the EC canon, I may say that the voids are not quite the same. The Mr. A's instantiations have to actually spread out between them to start their retconning job. So we see that the Administrators can move between the voids in the underlying fictional worlds. That much I can tell.
Dryunya wrote:Ok, not exactly human, but still. He can think, that means he can come up with ideas. Ergo, he can write fiction (if there is anything to write on ). Besides, I don't think his fictional world is that important, as it doesn't influence our world in any way. We might as well remove it from the model because of that.
And to get the idea about Mr. A's area of influence, we need to know 2 things:
1. Which void he originates in.
2. To what extent he can manipulate the reality above him. He can, in the very least, communicate with people.
Sicon112 wrote:Also, as far as I have seen/heard, Mr. A has never directly manifested himself in reality. For the moment, we should operate under the assumption that that is his limit. (Meta:How would an ARG handle that manifestation anyhow?)
In any case, I need to leave for an hour or so, so the theorizing is up to you. Mr. A should show up sometime soon, so be ready to greet him if he decides to de-lurk.
narrativedilettante wrote:Beings inhabiting the void can definitely communicate with beings in reality. From the way Mr. A handled the guardians, we can assume he can influence beings in the universe of fiction, too.
One question I still have is where the fourth wall fits into this. Does the void encompass the fourth wall, or is the void part of the fourth wall? Or is it separate? Mr. A's provided email address is oneabovethewall, which implies that, somewhere, there is an actual embodiment of the metaphorical fourth wall, and that Mr. A stands on it. In "Mind Screw" he said "WE WILL MAN OUR STATIONS ALONG THE FOURTH WALL." It seems that the fourth wall can be accessed from the void. It's just not clear how. Or which side.
Lordxana0 wrote:Don't know if this has been mentioned yet but the Metaverse would be as vast as human imgination so as long as there are people to create fiction the Metaverse will have infinite layers.
NeverSlender wrote:Maybe Mr. A can't manifest in our reality.
Sicon112 wrote:Second: As you seem to be assuming, he cannot move higher that the void he originates from, but seeing as he can reach the void directly placed between our reality and fiction, it still doesn't affect us. If he originates from there, then he cannot move higher (if there is a 'higher' to move to) but we can't either, so it's moot. If he originates from somewhere higher up (Again, same condition) then he can reach this level easily enough, but we cannot go higher up, so it's still a moot point.
Sicon112 wrote:In any case, I need to leave for an hour or so, so the theorizing is up to you. Mr. A should show up sometime soon, so be ready to greet him if he decides to de-lurk.
Dryunya wrote:Not really. He wanted to introduce the tropes into the EC's casts's lives, and (according to the Word Of God) eventually to make them fictional. I don't see how it would compromise the real world. On the other hand, ... that's pretty confusing.
This forum sucks. It doesn't have a tinfoil hat emoticon this situation calls for.
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