NeverSlender wrote:If I'm remembering correctly, this also fits with what Cheshire said. He passed through somewhere on the way (the void) and there was a "he" there who wouldn't like being called a monster (Mr. A).
Scarab wrote:NeverSlender wrote:If I'm remembering correctly, this also fits with what Cheshire said. He passed through somewhere on the way (the void) and there was a "he" there who wouldn't like being called a monster (Mr. A).
Yeah, odds are the Cheshire has visited the void (not for the first time I find myself wishing we could make more sense out of that guy...
Then again he could just have been referring to the fact that the void exists between fiction and reality... Where IS the void in relation to the Wall, anyway? Could the void BE the Wall itself?
Victin wrote:Scarab wrote:NeverSlender wrote:If I'm remembering correctly, this also fits with what Cheshire said. He passed through somewhere on the way (the void) and there was a "he" there who wouldn't like being called a monster (Mr. A).
Yeah, odds are the Cheshire has visited the void (not for the first time I find myself wishing we could make more sense out of that guy...
Then again he could just have been referring to the fact that the void exists between fiction and reality... Where IS the void in relation to the Wall, anyway? Could the void BE the Wall itself?
I think the Void is in the wall or something like that. You know, like, in the Great Wall, there is some space over it where people can walk. I see the void as the equivalent for the 4th Wall.
NeverSlender wrote:By maintain your position along the fourth wall, he could mean maintain your position as the fourth wall, or in the fourth wall or... something.
I know what I mean, but I have no idea how to word it.
Scarab wrote:So maybe ALL the instantations are the fourth wall? Maybe every time a character breaks through, one of them is destroyed?
Scarab wrote:NeverSlender wrote:By maintain your position along the fourth wall, he could mean maintain your position as the fourth wall, or in the fourth wall or... something.
I know what I mean, but I have no idea how to word it.
So maybe ALL the instantations are the fourth wall? Maybe every time a character breaks through, one of them is destroyed?
NeverSlender wrote:I think I've seen this mentioned before but, what the hell, I'll put it here. This is a theory on the fourth wall.
Mr. A and all of the instantiations are the fourth wall.
There are a few things that hint at this.
1. He is the administrator of TV Tropes and The Other Wiki. He is the link between fiction and reality.
2. He says he holds all the pieces of the wall. Each instantiation is a "piece" of the wall, and they are infinite.
3. He seems to be getting more unhinged with each video, he's "cracking up" and the cracks are getting worse.
4. This could be his motive for wanting the wall fixed, he's scared because it's him that's breaking.
I think it's also possible he didn't realise this. After all, he destroyed an instantiation himself. This could even have been what caused the wall to crack.
Thoughts?
Scarab wrote:Where IS the void in relation to the Wall, anyway? Could the void BE the Wall itself?"
NeverSlender wrote:If I'm remembering correctly, this also fits with what Cheshire said. He passed through somewhere on the way (the void) and there was a "he" there who wouldn't like being called a monster (Mr. A).
NeverSlender wrote:Part of my theory is that Mr. A doesn't know he's the fourth wall, otherwise he wouldn't willingly destroy instantiations/pieces.
WackyMeetsPractical wrote:NeverSlender wrote:Part of my theory is that Mr. A doesn't know he's the fourth wall, otherwise he wouldn't willingly destroy instantiations/pieces.
He says he has the pieces. So if the pieces are him, and he knows he has the pieces, and he has himself, then...Hold on, I'm confusing myself.
He says he has the pieces. He should know what they look like. But if he's the wall and his instantations are the pieces, and they have themselves...I can't articulate this for some reason.
It's possible, but it would really confuse me if it were so. I think the void being the wall is the better explanation. Less confusing, though still somewhat confusing.
Sicon112 wrote:Guys, Wacky is right. Mostly. The Void isn't QUITE the wall, but to say so isn't wrong. Technically, the wall itself is larger in effect than the void, and the void is just the interior of it. It's like calling the guard stations and hallways placed inside a castle wall the wall itself. Technically, there is an outside as well, but if you want to break through it you have to blast through the stuff inside it too. The void is just the interior of the wall, and the exterior just cannot be observed because there is no point where we can actually observe it.
Sicon112 wrote:Guys, Wacky is right. Mostly. The Void isn't QUITE the wall, but to say so isn't wrong. Technically, the wall itself is larger in effect than the void, and the void is just the interior of it. It's like calling the guard stations and hallways placed inside a castle wall the wall itself. Technically, there is an outside as well, but if you want to break through it you have to blast through the stuff inside it too. The void is just the interior of the wall, and the exterior just cannot be observed because there is no point where we can actually observe it.
NeverSlender wrote:Sicon112 wrote:Guys, Wacky is right. Mostly. The Void isn't QUITE the wall, but to say so isn't wrong. Technically, the wall itself is larger in effect than the void, and the void is just the interior of it. It's like calling the guard stations and hallways placed inside a castle wall the wall itself. Technically, there is an outside as well, but if you want to break through it you have to blast through the stuff inside it too. The void is just the interior of the wall, and the exterior just cannot be observed because there is no point where we can actually observe it.
So what does that make Mr. A? Is it his prison or something?
Sicon112 wrote:NeverSlender wrote:Sicon112 wrote:Guys, Wacky is right. Mostly. The Void isn't QUITE the wall, but to say so isn't wrong. Technically, the wall itself is larger in effect than the void, and the void is just the interior of it. It's like calling the guard stations and hallways placed inside a castle wall the wall itself. Technically, there is an outside as well, but if you want to break through it you have to blast through the stuff inside it too. The void is just the interior of the wall, and the exterior just cannot be observed because there is no point where we can actually observe it.
So what does that make Mr. A? Is it his prison or something?
No, it's his HOME, and it's his duty to guard it. It seems like he was generated by the Void, or just came into existence at the same time as it in order to take care of it. He's like the janitor of reality. XD
NeverSlender wrote:Here's a thought. What if the void is Mr. As prison, and he wants out? He doesn't seem to be able to leave (currently trawling through his twitter to see if anyone asked that). How would he go about getting out? By breaking the "outside" of the void ie the wall. That would explain why he said (exact words) "OUR PRIORITY IS THAT YOUR WORLD EXIST WHEN THIS IS OVER". He says nothing about keeping the PEOPLE safe, he just wants somewhere to live that isn't complete nothingness. I don't know if it's just me but his "send characters back through cracks to seal them" doesn't make much sense from a physics point of view (which may not apply here). If you push something through a crack then it makes the crack worse.
Really need a tin foil hat emote.
NeverSlender wrote:Here's a thought. What if the void is Mr. As prison, and he wants out? He doesn't seem to be able to leave (currently trawling through his twitter to see if anyone asked that). How would he go about getting out? By breaking the "outside" of the void ie the wall. That would explain why he said (exact words) "OUR PRIORITY IS THAT YOUR WORLD EXIST WHEN THIS IS OVER". He says nothing about keeping the PEOPLE safe, he just wants somewhere to live that isn't complete nothingness. I don't know if it's just me but his "send characters back through cracks to seal them" doesn't make much sense from a physics point of view (which may not apply here). If you push something through a crack then it makes the crack worse.
Really need a tin foil hat emote.
WackyMeetsPractical wrote:NeverSlender wrote:Here's a thought. What if the void is Mr. As prison, and he wants out? He doesn't seem to be able to leave (currently trawling through his twitter to see if anyone asked that). How would he go about getting out? By breaking the "outside" of the void ie the wall. That would explain why he said (exact words) "OUR PRIORITY IS THAT YOUR WORLD EXIST WHEN THIS IS OVER". He says nothing about keeping the PEOPLE safe, he just wants somewhere to live that isn't complete nothingness. I don't know if it's just me but his "send characters back through cracks to seal them" doesn't make much sense from a physics point of view (which may not apply here). If you push something through a crack then it makes the crack worse.
Really need a tin foil hat emote.
I did ask him if he was trapped in the void. He answered that only in the sense that we are trapped in reality. He then continues on to say that they rather like it there, mentioned having a mini fridge, a dart board, a foosball table, etc. They seem quite content and comfortable, with access to any luxury they could desire. If he wants out, he hides it well.
As for the physics thing, it's not that he needs all the characters through to fix the wall. It's just that when we do fix the wall, it will be impossible to get the characters through, so we need to do it now, because we can't do it once it's fixed.
NeverSlender wrote:WackyMeetsPractical wrote:NeverSlender wrote:Here's a thought. What if the void is Mr. As prison, and he wants out? He doesn't seem to be able to leave (currently trawling through his twitter to see if anyone asked that). How would he go about getting out? By breaking the "outside" of the void ie the wall. That would explain why he said (exact words) "OUR PRIORITY IS THAT YOUR WORLD EXIST WHEN THIS IS OVER". He says nothing about keeping the PEOPLE safe, he just wants somewhere to live that isn't complete nothingness. I don't know if it's just me but his "send characters back through cracks to seal them" doesn't make much sense from a physics point of view (which may not apply here). If you push something through a crack then it makes the crack worse.
Really need a tin foil hat emote.
I did ask him if he was trapped in the void. He answered that only in the sense that we are trapped in reality. He then continues on to say that they rather like it there, mentioned having a mini fridge, a dart board, a foosball table, etc. They seem quite content and comfortable, with access to any luxury they could desire. If he wants out, he hides it well.
As for the physics thing, it's not that he needs all the characters through to fix the wall. It's just that when we do fix the wall, it will be impossible to get the characters through, so we need to do it now, because we can't do it once it's fixed.
HE could be happy there, but there are ininite instantiations, can all of them be happy?
For the physics part, if normal physics apply, I can't see how sending characters back through cracks could donanything but make the cracks worse.
I hope he starts answering questions again, I've got loads to ask him.
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