Hercule Poirot blog discussion

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Re: Hercule Poirot blog discussion

Postby narrativedilettante on Sun Oct 28, 2012 5:46 pm

Scarab wrote:How IS Sweeny's wife alive anyway? Was it never clear in the original story?


In the story (or at least, the musical) this is what happened to Sweeney's wife:

After being raped by the judge, Lucy takes arsenic in order to kill herself. She doesn't die, but it leaves her insane (although the emotional trauma she'd just gone through likely had a lot to do with that, as well). By the time her husband gets back to London, she's been living as a beggar woman for years. They encounter one another several times without either realizing who the other is, though the beggar woman does comment "Hey, don't I know you mister" but Todd is trying to avoid people recognizing him from before, and writes it off. At the end of the play, Todd kills the beggar woman, only to realize later that she was his wife whom he'd believed dead. Mrs. Lovett knew that Lucy was alive, but mislead Todd because she wanted him for herself.
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Re: Hercule Poirot blog discussion

Postby Scarab on Mon Oct 29, 2012 8:38 am

narrativedilettante wrote:
Scarab wrote:How IS Sweeny's wife alive anyway? Was it never clear in the original story?


In the story (or at least, the musical) this is what happened to Sweeney's wife:

After being raped by the judge, Lucy takes arsenic in order to kill herself. She doesn't die, but it leaves her insane (although the emotional trauma she'd just gone through likely had a lot to do with that, as well). By the time her husband gets back to London, she's been living as a beggar woman for years. They encounter one another several times without either realizing who the other is, though the beggar woman does comment "Hey, don't I know you mister" but Todd is trying to avoid people recognizing him from before, and writes it off. At the end of the play, Todd kills the beggar woman, only to realize later that she was his wife whom he'd believed dead. Mrs. Lovett knew that Lucy was alive, but mislead Todd because she wanted him for herself.


...Well... that...

That really sucks :(
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Re: Hercule Poirot blog discussion

Postby H22 on Tue Oct 30, 2012 7:59 am

Poiriot seems really tactful with Sweeney, doesn't he?
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Re: Hercule Poirot blog discussion

Postby Scarab on Tue Oct 30, 2012 6:55 pm

H22 wrote:Poiriot seems really tactful with Sweeney, doesn't he?


Well, Poirot is clever. I don't think Sweeney is used to dealing with people quite as clever as he is. That's the thing about Poirot - I think he knows that people underestimate him, think he's just a foreigner with a silly moustache, and often, he knows how to use that to his advantage... at least in the few parts of the tv series I've seen, anyway. I'm only just now reading one of his books.
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Re: Hercule Poirot blog discussion

Postby Pixelmage on Tue Oct 30, 2012 7:55 pm

Scarab wrote:
H22 wrote:Poiriot seems really tactful with Sweeney, doesn't he?


Well, Poirot is clever. I don't think Sweeney is used to dealing with people quite as clever as he is. That's the thing about Poirot - I think he knows that people underestimate him, think he's just a foreigner with a silly moustache, and often, he knows how to use that to his advantage... at least in the few parts of the tv series I've seen, anyway. I'm only just now reading one of his books.


He's like that in the books too. He really IS awesome like that. :)
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Re: Hercule Poirot blog discussion

Postby Zup on Tue Oct 30, 2012 8:01 pm

Welp, another series to add to the list. If anything, this ARG is reminding me of books I need to read.
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Re: Hercule Poirot blog discussion

Postby Scarab on Wed Oct 31, 2012 8:21 am

Zup wrote:Welp, another series to add to the list. If anything, this ARG is reminding me of books I need to read.


The one I'm reading is 'The Big Four' which is a later one, it seems, so I'm missing a couple of points I should understand, but it's still a pretty good mystery story.
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Re: Hercule Poirot blog discussion

Postby The Wild West Pyro on Wed Oct 31, 2012 8:25 am

Scarab wrote:
Zup wrote:Welp, another series to add to the list. If anything, this ARG is reminding me of books I need to read.


The one I'm reading is 'The Big Four' which is a later one, it seems, so I'm missing a couple of points I should understand, but it's still a pretty good mystery story.


I suggest, to understand him even more, read the three:

MURDER ON THE ORIENT EXPRESS

THE MURDER OF ROGER ACKROYD

DEATH IN THE CLOUDS.

( Spoiler: Note: Pieter Van Haeran's death seems oddly similar to the one of one of the victims in the Big Four. Also, the Big Four kind of represent the Cabal, don;t you think?)

(Puts Tinfoil Fedora on.)

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Re: Hercule Poirot blog discussion

Postby H22 on Wed Oct 31, 2012 2:07 pm

I understand Poirot's latest post refers to langue d'avocats (Isn't that also a drink?). I have attempted to reply.
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Re: Hercule Poirot blog discussion

Postby Qara-Xuan Zenith on Wed Oct 31, 2012 2:21 pm

langue d'avocats is French for language of the lawyers.
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Re: Hercule Poirot blog discussion

Postby H22 on Wed Oct 31, 2012 2:25 pm

Indeed yes
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Re: Hercule Poirot blog discussion

Postby Greyscale on Wed Oct 31, 2012 5:29 pm

I would have guessed "avocados" but I guess that makes more sense.
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Re: Hercule Poirot blog discussion

Postby H22 on Thu Nov 01, 2012 8:47 am

Actually, avocado comes from the Spanish for lawyer... (God knows why...)
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Re: Hercule Poirot blog discussion

Postby The Wild West Pyro on Tue Nov 06, 2012 7:40 am

He seems to be rather inactive lately- I wonder what happened to him?
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Re: Hercule Poirot blog discussion

Postby Dryunya on Tue Nov 06, 2012 7:44 am

No new cases? Maybe he is waiting for Todd's refictionalization to move on? Who knows...
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Re: Hercule Poirot blog discussion

Postby The Wild West Pyro on Tue Nov 06, 2012 8:01 am

Dryunya wrote:No new cases? Maybe he is waiting for Todd's refictionalization to move on? Who knows...


It could be minor cases that aren't really too exciting, such as a burglary.
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Re: Hercule Poirot blog discussion

Postby Qara-Xuan Zenith on Wed Nov 07, 2012 8:12 pm

Uh-oh. Sounds like Poirot's sick.
(Oh, and French check: "mon fievre" means "my fever", though you could probably all figure that one out.)
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Re: Hercule Poirot blog discussion

Postby Scarab on Wed Nov 07, 2012 9:11 pm

Qara-Xuan Zenith wrote:Uh-oh. Sounds like Poirot's sick.
(Oh, and French check: "mon fievre" means "my fever", though you could probably all figure that one out.)


Well that explains why he's been so quiet of late.
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Re: Hercule Poirot blog discussion

Postby Dryunya on Wed Nov 07, 2012 11:01 pm

WMG: it's that fictional thingy of his, like the one Holmes suffered. :shock:
...nah, probably not.
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Re: Hercule Poirot blog discussion

Postby The Wild West Pyro on Thu Nov 08, 2012 12:04 am

Dryunya wrote:WMG: it's that fictional thingy of his, like the one Holmes suffered. :shock:
...nah, probably not.


It's probably just another flu.

He'll get over it. I have the flu too.
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Re: Hercule Poirot blog discussion

Postby WackyMeetsPractical on Sat Nov 10, 2012 2:35 am

A new case!

And it's taking him to Denver of all places. Looks like he and Holmes will be crossing paths once again.
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Re: Hercule Poirot blog discussion

Postby The Wild West Pyro on Sat Nov 10, 2012 4:16 am

WackyMeetsPractical wrote:A new case!

And it's taking him to Denver of all places. Looks like he and Holmes will be crossing paths once again.


I left him a comment.
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Re: Hercule Poirot blog discussion

Postby WackyMeetsPractical on Sat Nov 10, 2012 3:42 pm

The Wild West Pyro wrote:
WackyMeetsPractical wrote:A new case!

And it's taking him to Denver of all places. Looks like he and Holmes will be crossing paths once again.


I left him a comment.


He wants to meet Holmes. http://belgianamongtheenglish.wordpress ... omment-488
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Re: Hercule Poirot blog discussion

Postby The Finch on Mon Nov 12, 2012 9:59 am

Poirot posted.
I WANT YOU TO SAVE THE WALL AND WATCH PONIES
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Re: Hercule Poirot blog discussion

Postby Qara-Xuan Zenith on Mon Nov 12, 2012 10:20 am

He's met with Holmes, though due to "creative differences" they're going to work on their (probably related) cases separately.

I commented letting him know that the song is from Phantom of the Opera.

...Oh, damn. Now that I think of it, If I remember correctly, that song specifically is from Erik's play-within-a-play Don Juan Triumphant.

Commenting now to point out that further connection. (unless someone else gets to it first, since my internet connection's terrible in this lecture hall)

Edit: so, Poirot responded to my comments with "!!!".

WHAT DOES THAT EVEN MEAN?
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